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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 19, 2014 7:00:10 GMT
Well, I think I'll start a new thread to discuss some of the subjects that we've brought up elsewhere, and a few new things, here and there, as they seem to crop up... To begin with, I thought that I might bring you some further insight on the subject of 'Pan,' since we brought that up on the 'labyrinth' thread. Now, as I mentioned there, 'Pan' is much older than the Greeks... as a matter of fact, 'he' is said to be one of the eight original Egyptian 'gods.' Now, before anyone gets all 'heated up' about 'gods,' I would like to give you my 'take' on that... I think you'll see that it is in agreement with Truth, and what we 'know' about 'God,' which, let's face it, seems to be pathetically little. (This little detour may take a few minutes off our path, but it's probably necessary, in order for you to 'see' things the way that they 'saw' them... my apologies.) I should begin by reminding you all of the way that the Jewish scholars have decided to 'describe' 'God,' and that is the only way that 'He' can be described here... by 'His' 'attributes,' or in other words, those 'qualities' that make up 'God.' For them, these attributes make up the Sefirot, or 'Tree of Life,' that makes up the entirety of what we can know about 'God.' Each of these separate 'attributes,' ten in number (remembering now that 10 is the number of Deity... now you know why), with one 'hidden' attribute which is not 'counted,' known as Daath, and this has meaning, as well... but not now... and these separate attributes have 'names' and are referred to individually as Sefirah. Now, you can all accept this, yes...? The Egyptians, and others, did not reckon by the Jewish accounts, of course, and so they 'divided' 'God' into the same attributes, but they gave them names and called them 'gods,' or small-G attributes of the Big G... rather than 'Sefirah' and 'Sefirot;' they knew as well as you and I do that there was only One 'God.' They just had a different way of explaining 'Him'... and when the people wished to call on a specific 'attribute' of 'God,' they prayed or sacrificed to that 'aspect' of 'God' which was known by the name of a small-g 'god.' You understand...? Whew... that was a mouthful. We can get back to 'Pan' now, minus the 'stoning,' I hope... and I'll do that in just a minute; I'd better save this, before something happens; no cut-and-paste here...  |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 19, 2014 8:05:00 GMT
Okay, I'm sorry this is so late coming, but I had the post almost completed... ready to hit the button, so to speak... and... just what I tried to avoid in the post above, happened. Oh, brother... really. Anyway, here is an interesting piece that I found in regard to 'Pan;' in the original text, there is, of course, no underlining or highlighting, but as usual, I wanted to point out a few things that seemed extremely relevant, in regard to our discussion so far, and I think you'll see what I mean... I am quoting here from a most excellent 'essay' by Anthony Roe (beautiful serendipity, don't you think? Hello...): ...the herdsmen of ancient Greece adored Pan, and discovered the magick in connection with him.
Looking at such gods of the simpler Greek communities, we find them often vague in their nature and sometimes limited in their functions to a far greater degree than the better-known deities. It is noteworthy that some at least of Pan's worshippers were none too certain whether he was one or many; at all events, Aristophanes and Plato, to say nothing of later authors, have heard of the plural, Panes. But this is exactly what, under the circumstances, we should expect, and indeed find in several like cases. It is probable on the whole that his name means the Feeder or Pasturer. We can easily imagine that in Arcadia, where he was originally worshipped, many little groups of herdsmen devoutly adored each its divine Pasture, perhaps represented by some stick or stone set up in a holy place, and quite possibly each group was ready to proclaim the superiority of its own Pan to everyone else's. This might well be so, whether the god had originally been conceived as a single being or a plurality, for local cults tend to break up in this way. Nothing can be more certain than that the Virgin Mary is one person in every kind of Christian theology, and no cult is more widespread in modern Greece than hers; but I have heard of a Chian peasant who proclaimed in emphatic and not over-delicate language that the Panaghia (the All-Holy One, her popular name ) of his village church could out do all other Panaghies whomsoever.
www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/pan.htmNow, what do we have here...? A 'Feeder or Pasturer' (shepherd sound familiar?), Arcadia, and the 'All-Holy One' known as Mary... or Mari... There's more... but I want to show you something first; I've shown you this one before, but without a 'reference,' which I think that I have found in the text above... many little herdsmen devoutly adored each its own divine Pasture...The Twenty-Ninth Figure
'Thus shall it come to pass that each one will be led into its own pasture. For feeding in strange pasture causeth distress, contention, and misery in this world. As soon as each one cometh into its own stall there shall be unity. For the mouth becometh depraved, feeding according to its lust as it pleaseth the jaws; all that cometh of going into strange pastures. How blessed shall be the hour, and the poverty, that will come and shall ordain each one to its meadow, not far from the year XXXXIII.'
This bit is courtesy Paracelsus... and his 'prognostications.' Personally, I think it's all kind of wonderful... I'd better hit 'post.' |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 19, 2014 18:56:05 GMT
I don't have much time to spend here this morning, since I've already given some of my time to... contemplation... but, having done so, there are a couple of further points that this post warrants making, while we're still on the subject.
The first has to do with the 'peasant,' and the quote that I gave you above, which is this: Nothing can be more certain than that the Virgin Mary is one person in every kind of Christian theology, and no cult is more widespread in modern Greece than hers; but I have heard of a Chian peasant who proclaimed in emphatic and not over-delicate language that the Panaghia (the All-Holy One, her popular name ) of his village church could out do all other Panaghies whomsoever.
Why is this little piece of information important? Do you know? I do... he was 'passionate' about his 'Pan,' which is to say, that he 'loved' 'Her,' to the point of 'empowering' 'Her' with his own fervent love for 'Her.' Now, let's say that another way... God is Love. Sound familiar? Now, let's say it this way... 'God' IS Love... or, how about 'God' is LOVE? With the understanding that 'God' represents 'power,' and 'He' does. But it seems to be right here that we suffer the 'communication breakdown;' and I believe that you've been rather misled, purposefully, in order (once again) to deny, or deprive, you (individually and collectively) of the Power available to you, through 'God.'
'They' have strongly suggested that it is 'God's' 'love' for You that is efficacious... and it would be... except that it is... incomplete. It needs something, and that is, Your 'love' for 'Him'... your own passionate (soul-deep) 'feelings' for 'Him' that 'complete the circuit,' so to speak. And the more 'passionately' that you 'feel' for 'God,' the more powerfully 'He' works in you, and for you. The Cathars knew this... and therefore their 'Amor' which stands in direct opposition to 'Roma.'
You see, 'Roma' would deny you your passionate relationship with 'God,' or 'Minne,' if you Will, and concentrate on your groveling on your knees before a human representative of Power, which has the 'Power' to 'save you' or 'condemn you,' which is not at all what 'Love' is about, anyway... not True Love. And this 'love' is the 'True-est' Love of all...
The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.
Jeremiah 31:3
I have drawn thee... like a golden magnet, maybe? You see, the Rosicrucians understood it, too... it is our 'affinity' for 'Him' that draws that Power, and brings it to life. To 'sing' and to 'dance' in this place... in this universe...
…2Thus says the LORD, "The people who survived the sword Found grace in the wilderness-- Israel, when it went to find its rest." 3The LORD appeared to him from afar, saying, "I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness. 4"Again I will build you and you will be rebuilt, O virgin of Israel! Again you will take up your tambourines, And go forth to the dances of the merrymakers.…
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 19, 2014 19:10:12 GMT
from the "Secret Symbols of the Rosicrucians (with thanks to levity.com)  I attract all those seeking God and the truth; those alone will find the art.
I am the Magnet-Stone of divine love; attracting the Iron-hard men on the road to the truth.
I am the moisture which preserves everything in nature and makes it live, I pass from the upper to the lower planes; I am the heavenly dew and the fat of the land; I am the fiery water and the watery fire; nothing may live without me in time; I am close to all things yea; in and through all things, nevertheless unknown.
Nevertheless I only am in the grasp of the Philosophers.
I unfold and fold up again,
Bringing contentment to the artists,
Without me thou canst do nothing
Furthering any of your affairs.
Therefore fear God, pray and work in patience, if you find me your want would cease and you have a merciful God who befriendeth thee and giveth thee whatever thy heart may desire.Oh, what say you now, 'Edward Morning-Dew?' Lololol... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 20, 2014 8:35:53 GMT
Okay, I'm sorry this is so late coming, but I had the post almost completed... ready to hit the button, so to speak... and... just what I tried to avoid in the post above, happened. Oh, brother... really. Anyway, here is an interesting piece that I found in regard to 'Pan;' in the original text, there is, of course, no underlining or highlighting, but as usual, I wanted to point out a few things that seemed extremely relevant, in regard to our discussion so far, and I think you'll see what I mean... I am quoting here from a most excellent 'essay' by Anthony Roe (beautiful serendipity, don't you think? Hello...): ...the herdsmen of ancient Greece adored Pan, and discovered the magick in connection with him.
Looking at such gods of the simpler Greek communities, we find them often vague in their nature and sometimes limited in their functions to a far greater degree than the better-known deities. It is noteworthy that some at least of Pan's worshippers were none too certain whether he was one or many; at all events, Aristophanes and Plato, to say nothing of later authors, have heard of the plural, Panes. But this is exactly what, under the circumstances, we should expect, and indeed find in several like cases. It is probable on the whole that his name means the Feeder or Pasturer. We can easily imagine that in Arcadia, where he was originally worshipped, many little groups of herdsmen devoutly adored each its divine Pasture, perhaps represented by some stick or stone set up in a holy place, and quite possibly each group was ready to proclaim the superiority of its own Pan to everyone else's. This might well be so, whether the god had originally been conceived as a single being or a plurality, for local cults tend to break up in this way. Nothing can be more certain than that the Virgin Mary is one person in every kind of Christian theology, and no cult is more widespread in modern Greece than hers; but I have heard of a Chian peasant who proclaimed in emphatic and not over-delicate language that the Panaghia (the All-Holy One, her popular name ) of his village church could out do all other Panaghies whomsoever.
www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/pan.htmNow, what do we have here...? A 'Feeder or Pasturer' (shepherd sound familiar?), Arcadia, and the 'All-Holy One' known as Mary... or Mari... There's more... but I want to show you something first; I've shown you this one before, but without a 'reference,' which I think that I have found in the text above... many little herdsmen devoutly adored each its own divine Pasture...The Twenty-Ninth Figure
'Thus shall it come to pass that each one will be led into its own pasture. For feeding in strange pasture causeth distress, contention, and misery in this world. As soon as each one cometh into its own stall there shall be unity. For the mouth becometh depraved, feeding according to its lust as it pleaseth the jaws; all that cometh of going into strange pastures. How blessed shall be the hour, and the poverty, that will come and shall ordain each one to its meadow, not far from the year XXXXIII.'
This bit is courtesy Paracelsus... and his 'prognostications.' Personally, I think it's all kind of wonderful... I'd better hit 'post.' Now, the second point that I wanted to make about this particular post is the quote, "...in Arcadia, where he was originally worshipped, many little groups of herdsmen devoutly adored each its divine Pasture..." Now, let's see how this relates to the 'prognostication' given by Paracelsus that says, "'Thus shall it come to pass that each one will be led into its own pasture[/u]. For feeding in strange pasture causeth distress, contention, and misery in this world. As soon as each one cometh into its own stall there shall be unity. For the mouth becometh depraved, feeding according to its lust as it pleaseth the jaws; all that cometh of going into strange pastures. How blessed shall be the hour, and the poverty, that will come and shall ordain each one to its meadow..." And then, let's see how we can tie all of this into the tenets of Freemasonry... and I think I can... This 'divine Pasture' in Arcadia (somewhere east of Eden, I imagine, lol...) represents that 'holy ground' on which we 'find God,'- the place where we go to the trees (as did the original 'Druids) in order to hear 'His' 'voice,' speaking to us... they found 'Him' there, and we can still find 'Him' there. Take off your shoes... and look around you... Using this analogy, we can look at the various religions as 'pastures,' or the place where the 'flock is pastured/kept,' or where men now go to 'find God.' There they are 'shepherded' by various and sometimes dubious keepers, and 'fed' with the 'word' of 'God' as interpreted by those who 'keep the pasture.' Now, most of you know that the Freemasons, as an organization, ask that their 'members' believe in 'God,' or a God, as their own religion (that which they were raised with, or felt an affiliation with) 'sees God;' they do not espouse any one particular 'religion,' nor do they advocate for any one religion... and for this reason, they have been branded by the Catholic Church, particularly, as 'heretics,' and the Church even went so far as to excommunicate members that joined the Masonic Brotherhood. And so, the Freemasons would seem to advocate that each man remain in his own 'individual pasture,' or church affiliation, so to speak... this, being the 'outward' or exoteric example, with the 'hidden' or esoteric example extending itself to man's 'divine Pasture,'- or, the very personal place that a man goes to meet 'God,' wherever that may be... and it will be different for every man. My place is not your place, necessarily... and it doesn't need to be... You know, wherever you go, there 'It' is ... lol... And so, when Paracelsus tells us that our ills are due to being kept in 'strange pastures,' I believe that he is saying that we have, for the most part, at least, have been fed 'strange doctrine' and kept in pastures that were never meant for us... our current systems of religion. Do you see that the lamb wears the Pope's hat? He is his own 'pope,' and his divine Pasture is his own... his 'God' is personal, and he is fed in 'green pastures.' He looks quite content, I think... Further, he tells us that we will be returned to 'our own pastures'... and, under the circumstances, what can it mean...? Release for the prisoners of false shepherds. And, that, too was prophesied... Oops,- more 'good news'... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 20, 2014 18:56:33 GMT
Notice the colors here... red, white, and black... Magick-al stuff... Shabbat Shalom, friends and brothers... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 25, 2014 6:56:36 GMT
See the spiral staircase...? Lol... Now, within these later stories/versions of 'Pan,' let's see if we can make some 'connections'...
Others again make Aegipan the father of Pan, and state that he as well as his son was represented as half goat and half fish. (Eratosth. Catast. 27.) When Zeus in his contest with the Titans was deprived of the sinews of his hands and feet, Hermes and Aegipan secretly restored them to him and fitted them in their proper places. (Apollod. i. 6. § 3 ; Hygin. Poet. Astr. l. c.) According to a Roman tradition mentioned by Plutarch (Parallel. 22), Aegipan had sprung from the incestuous intercourse of Valeria of Tusculum and her father Valerius, and was considered only a different name for Silvanus.
AEGO′CERUS (Aigokerôs), a surname of Pan, descriptive of his figure with the horns of a goat, but is more commonly the name given to one of the signs of the Zodiac. (Lucan, ix. 536; Lucret. v. 614; C. Caes. Germ. in Arat. 213.)
Source: Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology.
Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca 1. 42 (trans. Aldrich) (Greek mythographer C2nd A.D.) :
"He [Typhon] also hid away the sinews [of Zeus] there in the skin of a bear, and posted as guard over them the drakaina Delphyne (a girl who was half animal). But Hermes and Aigipan (Aegipan) stole back the sinews and succeeded in replanting them in Zeus without being seen."
Pseudo-Plutarch, Greek & Roman Parallel Stories 22 (trans. Babbitt) (Greek historian C1st to C2nd A.D.) :
"[The god] Aegipan, called in the Roman tongue Silvanus."
Oppian, Halieutica 3. 15 (trans. Mair) (Greek poet C3rd A.D.) :
"And thou [Hermes] didst deliver the art of the deep for keeping to Pan of Korykos [Aigipan of the Korykian cave in Kilikia], thy son, who, they say, was the saviour of Zeus--the saviour of Zeus but the slayer of Typhon. For he tricked terrible Typhon with promise of a banquet of fish and beguiled him to issue forth from his spacious pit and come to the shore of the sea, where the swift lightning and the rushing fiery thunderbolts [of Zeus] laid him low."
Pseudo-Hyginus, Fabulae 155 (trans. Grant) (Roman mythographer C2nd A.D.) :
"Sons of Jove [Zeus] . . . Aegipan by the she-goat Boetis."
www.theoi.com/Georgikos/Aigipan.htmlShades of the 'Fisher King,' don't you think? 'Korykos' sounds a lot like 'Korah'... and the very word 'Aegipan' almost sounds like 'Egyptian' to me... but I have quite an imagination, really... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 25, 2014 19:02:25 GMT
Now, let's see if we can find our 'Pan' in' Egypt, since 'they' are said to be 'Aegipan'... lol... But, what do you know? I found 'Him'... and I think 'his' name is 'Minne'... yep... Min is an Ancient Egyptian god whose cult originated in predynastic times (4th millennium BCE). He was represented in many different forms, but was often represented in male human form, shown with an erect penis which he holds in his left hand and an upheld right arm holding a flail. As Khem or Min, he was the god of reproduction; as Khnum, he was the creator of all things, "the maker of gods and men."
His cult was strongest in Coptos and Akhmim (Panopolis), where in his honour great festivals were held celebrating his “coming forth” with a public procession and presentation of offerings.[1] His other associations include the eastern desert and links to the god Horus. Flinders Petrie excavated two large statues of Min at Qift which are now in the Ashmolean Museum and it is thought by some that they are pre-dynastic. Although not mentioned by name a reference to 'he whose arm is raised in the East' in the Pyramid Texts is thought to refer to Min.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_(god)Also interestingly... At the beginning of the harvest season, his image was taken out of the temple and brought to the fields in the festival of the departure of Min, when they blessed the harvest, and played games naked in his honour, the most important of these being the climbing of a huge (tent) pole.
In Egyptian art, Min was depicted as being covered in shrouds, wearing a crown with feathers, and often holding his penis erect in his left hand and a flail (referring to his authority, or rather that of the Pharaohs) in his upward facing right hand. Around his forehead, Min wears a red ribbon that trails to the ground, claimed by some to represent sexual energy. The symbols of Min were the white bull, a barbed arrow, and a bed of lettuce, that the Egyptians believed to be an aphrodisiac...
Even some war goddesses were depicted with the body of Min (including the phallus), and this also led to depictions, ostensibly of Min, with the head of a lioness...
In the 19th century, there was an alleged erroneous transcription of the Egyptian for Min as ḫm ("khem"). Since Khem was worshipped most significantly in Akhmim, the separate identity of Khem was reinforced, Akhmim being understood as simply a corruption of Khem. However, Akhmim is an alleged corruption of ḫm-mnw, meaning Shrine of Min, via the demotic form šmn.
Such as the Greek 'Athena,' maybe, who is said to have been 'born' full grown, in armor, from her father's forehead... and, 'he' is said to be dark-skinned... black, as a matter of fact... like the 'black madonna'... Ironic, don't you think...? A real 'female dick'... of all things... Minne and the Panagia... Making a 'return,' I think... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 25, 2014 19:19:19 GMT
Another interesting 'sidelight' on the 'identity' of 'Pan,' from the afore-mentioned work by Anthony Roe... ...The immortals were delighted with the child - Dionysus most of all. They named him Pan because 'all' had been pleased with him.
In Greek 'pan' means 'all', and the god was later identified with the physical Universe - although his name, except for its sound, has nothing to do with this. The story just told suggests that Pan was one of the youngest generation of gods. But each generation of gods must have had its own Pan, seeing that there was already a Pan in Zeus's cave, who helped Zeus against the Titans, or against Typhon, and seeing also, that a Pan was - together with Arcas - a son of Zeus and Callisto. The great poet and mythologian Aeschylus distinguished between two Pans; a son of Zeus, a twin brother of Areas; and a son of Kronos. The distinction between various Pans was also expressed in composite names such as Titanopan, Diopan, Hermopan - referring in each case to his father - or Aigipan, which was used by those who did not wish to assign any particular parentage to the god.
www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/pan.htmOr, could not assign any particular parentage to the 'god,' maybe... And that reminds me of something else... All for One, and One for All, isn't that right? And that reminds me of my old 'friends,' Flaming Sword and Sugarelf... and that 'fourth musketeer,' 'Pathos'... Lolol... Oh, I remember you, too... cheers, brothers... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 25, 2014 19:40:53 GMT
Now, let's see if we can find our 'Pan' in' Egypt, since 'they' are said to be 'Aegipan'... lol... But, what do you know? I found 'Him'... and I think 'his' name is 'Minne'... yep... Min is an Ancient Egyptian god whose cult originated in predynastic times (4th millennium BCE). He was represented in many different forms, but was often represented in male human form, shown with an erect penis which he holds in his left hand and an upheld right arm holding a flail. As Khem or Min, he was the god of reproduction; as Khnum, he was the creator of all things, "the maker of gods and men."
His cult was strongest in Coptos and Akhmim (Panopolis), where in his honour great festivals were held celebrating his “coming forth” with a public procession and presentation of offerings.[1] His other associations include the eastern desert and links to the god Horus. Flinders Petrie excavated two large statues of Min at Qift which are now in the Ashmolean Museum and it is thought by some that they are pre-dynastic. Although not mentioned by name a reference to 'he whose arm is raised in the East' in the Pyramid Texts is thought to refer to Min.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_(god)Also interestingly... At the beginning of the harvest season, his image was taken out of the temple and brought to the fields in the festival of the departure of Min, when they blessed the harvest, and played games naked in his honour, the most important of these being the climbing of a huge (tent) pole.
In Egyptian art, Min was depicted as being covered in shrouds, wearing a crown with feathers, and often holding his penis erect in his left hand and a flail (referring to his authority, or rather that of the Pharaohs) in his upward facing right hand. Around his forehead, Min wears a red ribbon that trails to the ground, claimed by some to represent sexual energy. The symbols of Min were the white bull, a barbed arrow, and a bed of lettuce, that the Egyptians believed to be an aphrodisiac...
Even some war goddesses were depicted with the body of Min (including the phallus), and this also led to depictions, ostensibly of Min, with the head of a lioness...
In the 19th century, there was an alleged erroneous transcription of the Egyptian for Min as ḫm ("khem"). Since Khem was worshipped most significantly in Akhmim, the separate identity of Khem was reinforced, Akhmim being understood as simply a corruption of Khem. However, Akhmim is an alleged corruption of ḫm-mnw, meaning Shrine of Min, via the demotic form šmn.
Such as the Greek 'Athena,' maybe, who is said to have been 'born' full grown, in armor, from her father's forehead... and, 'he' is said to be dark-skinned... black, as a matter of fact... like the 'black madonna'... Ironic, don't you think...? A real 'female dick'... of all things... Minne and the Panagia... Making a 'return,' I think... I told you I liked the name 'Hermethena'...  Now, look at this picture... it's worth at least a thousand words, I think...  See the red 'cross' on the chest... much as the 'Templars' wore, yes...? And the 'flail' of the Pharoahs... and the 'organ of generation' which is said to have been lost, and replaced, by Isis, which is only 'represented' by the penis that you see 'held in the left hand.' It is symbolic of the powers of 'creation' or 'generation' that are held by this 'Min'... I know that you can understand that... And, the 'Black Madonna' shows the result of this generative power, which is the 'child,' or 'living Word' of Creation... Three in one... but from the three will step forth a Fourth... as the One... which is the successful union of the first three... Well... believe it or not, that all makes sense to me, given the 'evidence,' so far... and it all points to One more thing... Out of the black... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 25, 2014 20:11:10 GMT
So, let's look at the 'evidence,' shall we...? This is Athena... somewhat 'goldenfleeced,' if you Will... lol... and definitely a spear-holder, like her 'father;' this is no surprise, since the 'spear' is said to represent the Will of 'God.' Therefore, the 'spearholder' would be... who?  Now, another view, atop a 'spiraled column,' ironically... lol...  Now, let's look at 'Jupiter,' the 'Father'...  And so, she was 'born' from his 'forehead'... fully armed... "Licensed, bonded, and insured" to do 'His' Will, just as another poster once said. Ironic... isn't it? |
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Post by ayraman on Sept 26, 2014 20:11:59 GMT
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 27, 2014 8:33:54 GMT
Mines Pooky... *kisses back* *extra butter* You need to come by more often...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 27, 2014 18:29:53 GMT
Oh, I thought my 'friend' would like this one... it is rather 'provocative,' don't you think? Lolol... But siriusly... why do you suppose that they played their games naked? Because they were just nasty like that? Lol... no. They were very well adjusted to nudity then, I'm sure, considering the natural lack of 'clothing' at hand; there was no need for public shows of nudity for the 'thrill factor,' as we have it today. I believe that 'we' appeared before 'God' without clothing, and 'played,' just as it is written: Proverbs 8:30
Then I was constantly at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence, New Living Translation I was the architect at his side. I was his constant delight, playing (rejoicing) always in his presence. English Standard Version then I was beside him, like a master workman, and I was daily his delight, playing before him always, 31 rejoicing (playing) in his whole world and delighting in mankind. New Living Translation And how happy I was with the world he created; how I rejoiced with the human family! English Standard Version rejoicing in his inhabited world and delighting in the children of man. Oh, yes... And a reminder that we walked with 'God' without these 'coats of skin' at one time... a better time... In the beginning. And they 'climb the pole' to signify the successful return of Malkuth, Kingdom, to Kether, Crown... which is the same thing that our Philosophers, Rabbins, Alchemists, and Hermeticists all await, alike... And there was, of course, one who succeeded. I just know it. And, while I'm at it, let me add one more thing,- the 'white bull' that is symbolic of Min... what does that remind you of? How about a 'white buffalo woman?' You see, they all have their 'versions' of pretty much the same story... it is their Min, or Minne, as they know her/It to be, and so, it is a white buffalo. And the red ribbon that hangs down...? It is symbolized elsewhere, I believe, as 'red hair.' And so, we have another common 'mistake' that would point elsewhere... like a little red herring... or mermaid... lolol... |
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 2, 2014 6:32:52 GMT
Now, about that 'goose-girl'... or better still, our 'Goose-footed Queen,' La Reine Pedauque... (or, one might 'say' 'Lorraine,' yes?) I was looking for some information to give you that was... interesting... and what do you know? I think I found just what I needed... Not necessarily in regard to our dear Marie, but... in regard to 'Lorraine,' in a way... and the 'double cross' that we are caught up in. I found this, in response to a search for the 'Cross of Lorraine,' and I got... Marilyn Manson. I know. But, I think that you should read this, and then contemplate what we have said in previous threads and posts... everything contained in parentheses will be my own comments)
TOMORROW...AT LAST WE MEET AGAIN
(Back to the future...?)
"Hello from the depths of Holy Wood... My fantastic band and I are busy composing music to usher in the Age of Horus. (Well, yes...) The hate furnaces have been ignited once again, and it's good to see the world still despises us. We are censored and stopped at every turn. We are sabotaged, we are smeared with false press. This right here, you and I is the only thing that is real. (So, in other words, DON'T expect the 'real thing,' because this is IT) Your support and dedication has made us survive this and we have returned to kick ass and take names. We will see the inauguration of a new worm. (I wonder if was the 'shamir' that they had in mind? Probably not... but, hay...)
In the name of JEHOVAH, LUCIFER, SATAN and THEIR UNION THROUGH THE MAGICIAN, JESUS CHRIST" (Okay... see how we just tied Jehovah, Lucifer, and Satan together in some kind of three-legged race, and basically 'hobbling' all three, with Jesus Christ as the presiding 'Magus' in this magical sideshow? Oh, yes... they're doing it, all right,- actually done it, I'd say...)
Marilyn Manson
July 28, 1999 I can't quite decide whether or not the man is confused as to the 'nature of the beast,' or not... because, while the 'basics' of his presentation seem 'true' in many respects, there is a 'dark side' to all of this, where 'mirrors' of 'truth' are just as dangerous as outright lies. But, this information, which is how I got there, seems to be 'true' enough... In reference to the Occult, the hermetic properties of the cross were largely revived by a devoted man named René d'Anjou. René, an Angevin monarch during the period of the Renaissance, personally convinced a local, Cosimo de Medici, to translate many ancient texts into a variety of European dialects - most prominently known is the masterwork Corpus Hermeticum, which, once translated, spread quite rapidly throughout Europe. Once assimilated into European culture, Marie de Guise (the mother of Mary Queen of Scots) assimilated the cross as her own personal symbol...
The hermetic nature of the Cross of Lorraine can further be realized by the photo below, carrying a sun atop the cross, and a moon below it; signifying balance and equilibrium, along with the amalgamation of the sun (the essence of masculinity), and the moon (the sacred feminine). To reinforce this, the middle pillar of the cross reads "The blessed stone contains everything within itself", a mention back to The Philosopher's Stone, the amalgamation of male and female within the Cross of Lorraine, furthering Hermes' teachings of equilibrium, balance, and unity which has always been a central aspect of Marilyn Manson.
To make matters more interesting, there are several hidden messages contained within The Cross of Lorraine...www.nachtkabarett.com/CelebritarianCorporation/DoubleCross And, unfortunately, while it was 1999, it wasn't quite time to party yet...  |
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