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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 5, 2014 2:25:56 GMT
I have a few subjects in mind tonight, but once again, time is short, so let's start with something that I've been promising to 'raise again' (lol), which seems to bear particular relevance to the time at hand... and so, I bring you the mysterious 'Teli Pole,' mentioned briefly in the Sefer Yetzirah. This is all very interesting, and again, very little understood, but because we are interested in 'Pole stars' and 'pole shifts' and etc, etc, it seems as if it is worth a closer look... with those special looking-glasses, I think... In ancient times, the Teli, in the form of Draco, was worshipped as an idolatrous deity. Rabbi Isaac of Acco identifies it with the idol Baal, mentioned in the Bible.
Many philosophical commentaries on Sefer Yetzirah, as well as astronomical texts, interpret the Teli as being the inclination between two astronomical planes. In modern astronomy, this is usually called the 'obliquity,' and it usually denotes the inclination separating the ecliptic and the celestial equator, which is the imaginary circle above the earth's equator (it looks like a crescent moon). In this sense, the Teli is also referred to as a dragon or a fish. This is because it has the shape of a fish, wide in the center, and coming to a point at both ends.
Hebrew astronomers also used the term Teli to denote the inclination of the orbit of a planet from the ecliptic, particularly in the case of the moon.
There are two points where the orbit of a planet intersect the plane of the ecliptic. The point through which the planet passes from the south of the ecliptic plane to the north is called the ascending node, while the other point is known as the descending node. In medieval astronomy, the ascending node was often called the 'dragon's head,' while the descending node was referred to as the 'dragon's tail.' With regard to the intersection points of the equator and the ecliptic, these are the two equinoxes. The vernal equinox is the head, while the autumnal equinox is the tail of the dragon.
The 'dragon,' whose head and tail form the two nodes is then identified as the Teli. Most early Hebrew writers refer to it by its Arabic name, Al Jaz'har (a Persian word, meaning knot or node).
Rabbi Abraham Abulafia also identifies the Teli with the celestial 'knots'. He writes that the head of the Teli denotes merit, while its tail signifies liability...
Another important opinion is that of the practical Kabbalists. They write that the Teli is actually a place under the firmament of Vilon, and that it is inhabited by humanoid beings, which deport themselves in holiness and purity like angels. The divine mysteries are revealed to these beings, and they have the authority to reveal these things to mortal humans. Methods are also given whereby these beings can be contacted.
While adhering to the view that the Teli is the segment between the ascending and descending nodes, Rabbi Judah HaLevi also writes that the Teli alludes to the spiritual world, and to hidden mysteries that cannot be grasped. Rabbi Abraham Abulafia similarly writes that the 'knots' of the Teli are 'knots' of Love and Mystical Union.
The nodes of the Teli are the points where two divergent orbits meet. The physical and spiritual worlds can also be looked upon as two divergent orbits. The Teli would then represent the nodes where the physical and spiritual meet...
Excerpt from 'Sefer Yetzirah, the Book of Creation, in Theory and Practice' by Aryeh Kaplan. A real treasure. Whew... that's enough for a minute, don't you think? There are some important points made above, I've tried to point them out. Now, think about that for a minute... and what a big fish that must be... and about Jonah... Wow... And speaking of 'wow,' this one's for the Kevlar Monkey... I couldn't resist.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 5, 2014 2:43:14 GMT
There are two other points that might be made in regard to the text above, and I would like to point out the first one tonight, while I have time... It is interesting that the Teli should be named in relation to Baal, since this came immediately to my mind... Hosea 2:16 (or, 18) In that day — this is the LORD’s declaration — you will call Me, “My husband,” and no longer call Me, “ My Baal.”
New American Standard Bible "It will come about in that day," declares the LORD, "That you will call Me Ishi And will no longer call Me Baali.
King James Bible And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, [that] thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali. And about the Teli, regarding 'love' and 'mystical union'... How about that? It all kind of ties in... rather nicely... don't you think? I do...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 6, 2014 3:22:09 GMT
I have to work again tonight, so I only have a few minutes to play... since I see that there is yet one person here to read, I will add something to this post. This information was all quite exciting for me, personally; I hope that it brings good things to mind for you, as well. To continue with the text above, then, by Aryeh Kaplan... This picture is clarified through a Talmudic example. The Talmud presents a picture where "the stormwind hangs (talah) between the two arms of God like an amulet." This 'hanging' can be identified with the Teli. As discussed earlier, the 'stormwind' (sa'arah) refers to the initiation into the prophetic, or mystical experience. The two nodes of the Teli are the spiritual points from which this 'amulet' hangs. The Talmud furthermore states that the 'arms' from which it hangs are the "arms of the universe." As discussed earlier, the 'arms of the universe' denotes the 12 diagonal boundaries.
One of the most significant interpretations is that of the Bahir. The Bahir states: "What is the Teli? It is the likeness, before the Blessed Holy One. It is thus written, 'His locks are hanging.' (Song of Songs 5:11)
The link with this biblical verse is highly significant. In its entirety, the verse reads, "His head is a treasure of fine gold, His locks are hanging, black like a raven."Now, that all sounds familiar... The 'Cross of Lorraine' presents a picture that corresponds rather nicely to that first highlighted part, don't you think...? I do... and I can't help wondering if that 'amulet' is hanging upside-down... And then, that second part... He almost sounds 'golden fleeced'... almost. If He weren't a 'black sheep,' after all... May 'God' bless the reading of the Word.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 6, 2014 3:26:35 GMT
For You, Cleo... Just on the off-chance that you ever come around again...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 6, 2014 21:47:33 GMT
But, on a 'lighter' note...
Remember this one? I do... and watch this...
Hung on the Teli, Hung on the Teli, Hung on the phone again...
Oh, that's a Good One, don't you think...?
We'd better play that again.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 6, 2014 21:48:59 GMT
But, on a 'lighter' note...
Remember this one? I do... and watch this...
Hung on the Teli, Hung on the Teli, Hung on the phone again...
Oh, that's a Good One, don't you think...?
We'd better play that again.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 7, 2014 2:27:17 GMT
Well, let's try this one again... I had it nearly ready to post earlier, but when I went to pick up the illustration, I came back to an empty 'reply' space. Since I needed to try to squeeze in a few more hours of sleep, I decided to let it go for the time being and come back to it, so... here we go. I'm going to quote further from Aryeh Kaplan's commentary on the Sefer Yetzirah, since this is all very interesting, considering the way that we're going to tie it into the alchemical 'work,' once again, in a most surprising kind of a way. To continue, then... In both Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions, this verse (Song of Songs 5:11, quoted in the post above) has two interpretations. First, it relates to a vision of God, indicating that when He is visualized in battle, He is seen as a young man with black hair. The Kabbalists say that this is 'Zer Anpin' (Small Face, Microprosopus), the personification of the six Sefirot from Chesed to Yesod.
The second interpretation relates this verse to the Torah. The Talmud states that the hanging (or piled) hair relates to the fact that every letter of the Torah contains 'piles and piles' of wisdom. Besides this, the hanging hairs are said to relate to the lines upon which the letters of the Torah are written.
The Torah which is spoken of here is not the ordinary written Torah, but the primeval Torah, which was written with 'black fire on white fire.' According to many Kabbalists, this primeval Torah in itself is identified with Zer Anpin.
In this 'picture,' each letter of the Torah is seen as a hair in the beard of Zer Anpin. These are not seen as simple hairs, but as channels through which God's wisdom emanates from His 'head.' The 'head' is the 'concealed' wisdom of God, while the letters are its outward revelation...
The verse says, 'His head is a treasure of fine gold.' This refers to the unknowable divine Intellect... the verse continues, 'His locks are hanging (piled), black like a raven.' Even these hairs are black and incomprehensible. Each of these hairs corresponds to a 'point' in the letters of the Torah. Each letter contains 'piles and piles' of wisdom.Now, watch this... The 'locks' are 'black as a raven'... crazy, isn't it? So... about your crows... lolol... and look how the 'words' hang, all around 'Him'... and, if I'm not mistaken, 'He' is 'coming with clouds'... A 'Great Day of Small Things,' indeed. The illustration is from Heinrich Khunrath, again... very alchemical... and kind of Magical, wouldn't you say?
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 7, 2014 3:22:32 GMT
That was pretty good, wasn't it...? But, just so you know that I'm 'Sirius,' too, I'll see that One, and raise you a 'Fool on the Hill'... Ready...? Nothing up my sleeve... From the same text: The scripture calls the 'hangings' of the divine beard Taltalim. The Zohar relates this to the word 'Talpiot,' which, as the Talmud teaches, "is the hill (teli) to which all mouths (piot) turn." This 'hill' is the mount upon which the Temple was built, which Jacob called 'the gate of heaven' (Genesis 28:17). This Talpiot is the tangible link between the physical and the spiritual. According to the Kabbalists, the same holds true of the Teli. [/i]
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 7, 2014 3:24:43 GMT
That was pretty good, wasn't it...? But, just so you know that I'm 'Sirius,' too, I'll see that One, and raise you a 'Fool on the Hill'... Ready...? Nothing up my sleeve... From the same text: The scripture calls the 'hangings' of the divine beard Taltalim. The Zohar relates this to the word 'Talpiot,' which, as the Talmud teaches, "is the hill (teli) to which all mouths (piot) turn." This 'hill' is the mount upon which the Temple was built, which Jacob called 'the gate of heaven' (Genesis 28:17). This Talpiot is the tangible link between the physical and the spiritual. According to the Kabbalists, the same holds true of the Teli.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 1, 2014 2:49:57 GMT
I have to work again tonight, so I only have a few minutes to play... since I see that there is yet one person here to read, I will add something to this post. This information was all quite exciting for me, personally; I hope that it brings good things to mind for you, as well. To continue with the text above, then, by Aryeh Kaplan... This picture is clarified through a Talmudic example. The Talmud presents a picture where "the stormwind hangs (talah) between the two arms of God like an amulet." This 'hanging' can be identified with the Teli. As discussed earlier, the 'stormwind' (sa'arah) refers to the initiation into the prophetic, or mystical experience. The two nodes of the Teli are the spiritual points from which this 'amulet' hangs. The Talmud furthermore states that the 'arms' from which it hangs are the "arms of the universe." As discussed earlier, the 'arms of the universe' denotes the 12 diagonal boundaries.
One of the most significant interpretations is that of the Bahir. The Bahir states: "What is the Teli? It is the likeness, before the Blessed Holy One. It is thus written, 'His locks are hanging.' (Song of Songs 5:11)
The link with this biblical verse is highly significant. In its entirety, the verse reads, "His head is a treasure of fine gold, His locks are hanging, black like a raven."Now, that all sounds familiar... The 'Cross of Lorraine' presents a picture that corresponds rather nicely to that first highlighted part, don't you think...? I do... and I can't help wondering if that 'amulet' is hanging upside-down... And then, that second part... He almost sounds 'golden fleeced'... almost. If He weren't a 'black sheep,' after all... May 'God' bless the reading of the Word. Here, I can 'illustrate' this one for you, I think... look at this... And the 'hanging' of the 'amulet' resembles an 'M' in form... which reminds me of a couple of things, off-hand; the first being a mysterious 'Book of M' said to used by Nicholas Flamel in order to produce his successful alchemical results, and the second being the plethora of 'M' oriented posternames and avatars present on the internet forums, specifically. Examples of that would include: 'The House of M,' 'Martini Maven,' 'Moranic Mayhem,' 'Morning Mist,' 'Mother Mary,' etc, etc... that's only one forum, of course, and the few that I remember just off the top of my head, so to speak... but the reason for all of this would seem (if one were conspiratorially-minded, and it also seems they don't call them 'conspiracy forums' for no Good reason) to be 'identification' with this 'M,' and especially a 'double M,' if you Will... like a 'twin,' or a Gemini identification. And that brings up some other posters that I probably don't need to mention by name, since they should be conspicuous enough by their fondness for public crotch-grabbing, in a manner of speaking, but no uncertain terms. Pretty much direct quotes, actually... lol... And then, we can start in on the K's... For instance, this 'illustration' of a 'lauburu' was found tagged with the letters 'kkkk;' why? What's the significance? And here's a blogsite featuring a 'kove;' a lot of correlating information here, in one way or another... linkie...? A lot of interesting subjects to read here, including 'self-hypnosis'... Remember Mesmer...? Yep. Mesmerized... Interesting... thekove.tripod.com/Paranormal/oraclehome.htmlYou know who you are, even if the rest of us don't... necessarily... just watch your groin... whatever... and K-now Thy-s-elf... Now, as to the 'amulet,' there is an illustration given of a specific amulet in the book that I'd like to quote from, The Spirit of Masonry by William Hutchinson, but I can't quite locate the original, so we'll just go with the quote, and you'll have to imagine the rest. We'll get to that in just a minute...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 1, 2014 4:14:37 GMT
In the British Museum is a beryl stone, of the form of an egg. The head is in cameo, the reverse in taglio. The head is supposed to represent the image of the Creator, under the denomination of Jupiter Ammon. The sun and moon on the reverse, the Osiris and Isis of the Egyptians; and were used hieroglyphically to represent the omnipotence, omnipresence, and eternity of God. The star seems to be used as a point only, but is an emblem of Prudence, the third emanation of the Basilidian divine person. The scorpion, in hieroglyphics, represented malice and wicked subtlety and the serpent, an heretic; the implication whereof seems to be, that heresy, the subtleties and vices of infidels, and the devotees of Satan, were subdued by the knowledge of the true God.From 'The Spirit of Masonry' by William Hutchinson Well, how do you like that? It would seem that we should be at least acquainted with 'Prudence,'- this unusual representation is taken from an old Italian deck... notice the two-faced aspect of the figure, the mirror, and the small dragon/serpent at her feet. And this is a depiction of 'Janus,' the Roman god of New Beginnings (just as the 'Abraxas' amulet/symbol shows the herald of the dawn of a New Day)... lol... and this same image is also known as the Babylonian 'Nimrod'... And, as far as 'beryl' goes, emeralds are the green variety of this stone... You see what I mean? Now, let's look at Jupiter Ammon... his main feature seems to be the spiraled horns... and this is relative to something else that you should find interesting. First, Jupiter Ammon... Notice how the spiraled 'horn' in the first image resembles a 'Nautilus' shell... see? And that all has exactly what to do with Masonry, and/or our Rosslyn Chapel? This... Oh, there's more... for which we should probably introduce another thread...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 1, 2014 6:03:39 GMT
Now, as far as these particular images are concerned, their 'relationship' to the Teli under discussion is this: in the representation of 'Prudence,' I pointed out the dragon at her/its feet. And, in the description of the image of the beryl amulet that I gave you, there was a serpent below the scorpion... these are both said to be symbols that represent the Teli... see the first post in the thread. And there they are... Now, remember that 'Prudence' is said to be the 'third emanation of the Basilidian divine person;' this 'divine person' seems to be directly related to the 'perfect man' that is aniticpated by Nicholas von Flue, and a 'new beginning'... and all of this seems to point to a time and place in which the 'nodes' of the Spiritual and Physical meet, resulting in this 'new creation' or 'new beginning.' Now, we're going to tie the 'beginning' in to the 'end,' or better, the 'new beginning'... In a really cool spiral...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 1, 2014 19:03:37 GMT
Well, I just thought I'd throw this one in, for 'ambiance'... From Across the Universe... And then, we'll get on with something a little more serious, I suppose... somebody's got their big 'balls to the wall,' I see... big brass ones, if I don't miss my guess... I wonder if they got their 'goodies' yet? This rendition thanks to 'duhFLUFFYbunneyz'... lolol... this isn't even the right video... wow... they are 'good'... lol...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 1, 2014 19:27:56 GMT
Now, as far as these particular images are concerned, their 'relationship' to the Teli under discussion is this: in the representation of 'Prudence,' I pointed out the dragon at her/its feet. And, in the description of the image of the beryl amulet that I gave you, there was a serpent below the scorpion... these are both said to be symbols that represent the Teli... see the first post in the thread. And there they are... Now, remember that 'Prudence' is said to be the 'third emanation of the Basilidian divine person;' this 'divine person' seems to be directly related to the 'perfect man' that is aniticpated by Nicholas von Flue, and a 'new beginning'... and all of this seems to point to a time and place in which the 'nodes' of the Spiritual and Physical meet, resulting in this 'new creation' or 'new beginning.' Now, we're going to tie the 'beginning' in to the 'end,' or better, the 'new beginning'... In a really cool spiral... I'd like to share some further items for contemplation on the 'golden spiral'... This one is titled, 'eggandspiralmonad,' interestingly... It seems to speak of times... or 'signs of the times,' I suppose... But there's more...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 1, 2014 20:12:00 GMT
Now, this image represents an 'Ammonite,' or the fossilized remains of one of the earliest types of creatures,- from the sea,- known as 'Ammonoids,' interestingly. More interestingly, these Ammonites (from the sea) represent the 'horns' of 'Jupiter Ammon,' the Creator 'God,' or, that from which 'life' sprang... in those most Ancient of Days, indeed... And, even more interestingly, Amun... Amun-Ra... was the name of the Egyptian Creator-God, and He was represented by a ram, with spiraling horns... Kind of cool how the 'fleece' makes spiral patterns, don't you think...? Yep.
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