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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 25, 2014 18:40:59 GMT
In retrospect, I feel that my reply to our new friend, 'Kyrie' (and that's more like it, isn't it?), may have been somewhat 'short-sighted,' and that would leave us with another case of what approaches the 'blind leading the blind,' which path we've already been down. So... I will try to 'sum up' my own thoughts concerning this 'Voynich Manuscript' for you, all...
1) The manuscript is authentic, or 'real.' 2) The manuscript was written in an early sort of 'proto-Hebrew,' if you will, which is much older than the Hebrew language that is now known, but still familiar in its 'root' form. I surmise, then, that the authors were 'Hebrews,' but of a 'tribe' or 'stock' that is either older than any known today, and/or was separated from the main 'stock' of Hebrews somehow (as their version of the language is no longer the same), and that where ever they were re-located to, they had NO contact with the main body of Hebrews from which they came. 3} Their knowledge and illustrations of plants seems to indicate that they are familiar with 'earthly' varieties of such, but these varieties are not of the sort that grow 'above-ground,' for a certainty, so that, if they are indeed native plants (and I submit that they are), then they must grow in another location... somewhere that we haven't been able to go... yet... and that pretty much only leaves us one place, in this day and age... Under-ground. Right, Alice...? Lol... 3) The information contained within the volume seems to be 'practical' in nature, and it would seem that the purpose of the volume is to be 'informational,' and therefore, based on facts, as the writer knew them to be. 4) There is, and has been, only one copy of this volume. The question of 'why' could be easily answered, if one considers the possibility(as I have) that it was brought along in the effects of a 'traveler,' say, from that place... to here... for themselves, as well as the people that they might meet here, and who would be affected by the prophecies(or just fore-knowledge, say) contained therein. 5) I further suggest that this 'traveler,' like a very few others whose stories you can find sprinkled oh-so-lightly throughout history... Merovee, for instance... from the Sea... came from a place terrestrial enough, but oh so far away, and I believe that I know the identity of these very, very old Hebrews.
I further believe, that if you think about it, without bias, 'Kyrie,' you will find the evidence that still lies within our reach... and the message that it is trying to give us. Before, 'God' forbid, it's too late...
I would have posted the other version of this video, but the poster looked a little bit too 'familiar'... if you know what I mean...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 25, 2014 18:56:53 GMT
I will add one more thing at this time, 'Kyrie' (kerri A), most provocatively, and just for your benefit... since it is not likely that you've gotten this far with any of the rest of it, either... These 'Hebrews'... are Phoenixes... Phoenices... Phoenicians... Seamen... sailors... And, like the Phoenix, I believe that they are on the rise... Have yet a little bit of Patience, 'Kyrie'... I think you'll catch on. Have some Cracker Jack...? Lolol...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 25, 2014 19:10:29 GMT
In retrospect, I feel that my reply to our new friend, 'Kyrie' (and that's more like it, isn't it?), may have been somewhat 'short-sighted,' and that would leave us with another case of what approaches the 'blind leading the blind,' which path we've already been down. So... I will try to 'sum up' my own thoughts concerning this 'Voynich Manuscript' for you, all... 1) The manuscript is authentic, or 'real.' 2) The manuscript was written in an early sort of 'proto-Hebrew,' if you will, which is much older than the Hebrew language that is now known, but still familiar in its 'root' form. I surmise, then, that the authors were 'Hebrews,' but of a 'tribe' or 'stock' that is either older than any known today, and/or was separated from the main 'stock' of Hebrews somehow (as their version of the language is no longer the same), and that where ever they were re-located to, they had NO contact with the main body of Hebrews from which they came. 3} Their knowledge and illustrations of plants seems to indicate that they are familiar with 'earthly' varieties of such, but these varieties are not of the sort that grow 'above-ground,' for a certainty, so that, if they are indeed native plants (and I submit that they are), then they must grow in another location... somewhere that we haven't been able to go... yet... and that pretty much only leaves us one place, in this day and age... Under-ground. Right, Alice...? Lol... 3) The information contained within the volume seems to be 'practical' in nature, and it would seem that the purpose of the volume is to be 'informational,' and therefore, based on facts, as the writer knew them to be. 4) There is, and has been, only one copy of this volume. The question of 'why' could be easily answered, if one considers the possibility(as I have) that it was brought along in the effects of a 'traveler,' say, from that place... to here... for themselves, as well as the people that they might meet here, and who would be affected by the prophecies(or just fore-knowledge, say) contained therein. 5) I further suggest that this 'traveler,' like a very few others whose stories you can find sprinkled oh-so-lightly throughout history... Merovee, for instance... from the Sea... came from a place terrestrial enough, but oh so far away, and I believe that I know the identity of these very, very old Hebrews. I further believe, that if you think about it, without bias, 'Kyrie,' you will find the evidence that still lies within our reach... and the message that it is trying to give us. Before, 'God' forbid, it's too late... I would have posted the other version of this video, but the poster looked a little bit too 'familiar'... if you know what I mean... For instance, dear 'Kyrie,' where in this world do you suppose that one might walk 'in the valley of the shadow of death?' And it says that someone does... did... I tell you that there is such a place... if one were to walk under the earth, you would be most certainly walking 'in the valley of the shadow of death,' since it would be a fact that all of the earth's dead would be situated directly above your head. An interesting thought, to say the least... and yet... one is still to walk without 'fear.' But it gets better, of course... with Patience... and Faith... Lol.. The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.Psalm 23
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Post by Syri on Oct 26, 2014 0:37:09 GMT
In retrospect, I feel that my reply to our new friend, 'Kyrie' (and that's more like it, isn't it?), may have been somewhat 'short-sighted,' and that would leave us with another case of what approaches the 'blind leading the blind,' which path we've already been down. So... I will try to 'sum up' my own thoughts concerning this 'Voynich Manuscript' for you, all... 1) The manuscript is authentic, or 'real.' 2) The manuscript was written in an early sort of 'proto-Hebrew,' if you will, which is much older than the Hebrew language that is now known, but still familiar in its 'root' form. I surmise, then, that the authors were 'Hebrews,' but of a 'tribe' or 'stock' that is either older than any known today, and/or was separated from the main 'stock' of Hebrews somehow (as their version of the language is no longer the same), and that where ever they were re-located to, they had NO contact with the main body of Hebrews from which they came. 3} Their knowledge and illustrations of plants seems to indicate that they are familiar with 'earthly' varieties of such, but these varieties are not of the sort that grow 'above-ground,' for a certainty, so that, if they are indeed native plants (and I submit that they are), then they must grow in another location... somewhere that we haven't been able to go... yet... and that pretty much only leaves us one place, in this day and age... Under-ground. Right, Alice...? Lol... 3) The information contained within the volume seems to be 'practical' in nature, and it would seem that the purpose of the volume is to be 'informational,' and therefore, based on facts, as the writer knew them to be. 4) There is, and has been, only one copy of this volume. The question of 'why' could be easily answered, if one considers the possibility(as I have) that it was brought along in the effects of a 'traveler,' say, from that place... to here... for themselves, as well as the people that they might meet here, and who would be affected by the prophecies(or just fore-knowledge, say) contained therein. 5) I further suggest that this 'traveler,' like a very few others whose stories you can find sprinkled oh-so-lightly throughout history... Merovee, for instance... from the Sea... came from a place terrestrial enough, but oh so far away, and I believe that I know the identity of these very, very old Hebrews. I further believe, that if you think about it, without bias, 'Kyrie,' you will find the evidence that still lies within our reach... and the message that it is trying to give us. Before, 'God' forbid, it's too late... I would have posted the other version of this video, but the poster looked a little bit too 'familiar'... if you know what I mean...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 26, 2014 6:35:05 GMT
In retrospect, I feel that my reply to our new friend, 'Kyrie' (and that's more like it, isn't it?), may have been somewhat 'short-sighted,' and that would leave us with another case of what approaches the 'blind leading the blind,' which path we've already been down. So... I will try to 'sum up' my own thoughts concerning this 'Voynich Manuscript' for you, all... 1) The manuscript is authentic, or 'real.' 2) The manuscript was written in an early sort of 'proto-Hebrew,' if you will, which is much older than the Hebrew language that is now known, but still familiar in its 'root' form. I surmise, then, that the authors were 'Hebrews,' but of a 'tribe' or 'stock' that is either older than any known today, and/or was separated from the main 'stock' of Hebrews somehow (as their version of the language is no longer the same), and that where ever they were re-located to, they had NO contact with the main body of Hebrews from which they came. 3} Their knowledge and illustrations of plants seems to indicate that they are familiar with 'earthly' varieties of such, but these varieties are not of the sort that grow 'above-ground,' for a certainty, so that, if they are indeed native plants (and I submit that they are), then they must grow in another location... somewhere that we haven't been able to go... yet... and that pretty much only leaves us one place, in this day and age... Under-ground. Right, Alice...? Lol... 3) The information contained within the volume seems to be 'practical' in nature, and it would seem that the purpose of the volume is to be 'informational,' and therefore, based on facts, as the writer knew them to be. 4) There is, and has been, only one copy of this volume. The question of 'why' could be easily answered, if one considers the possibility(as I have) that it was brought along in the effects of a 'traveler,' say, from that place... to here... for themselves, as well as the people that they might meet here, and who would be affected by the prophecies(or just fore-knowledge, say) contained therein. 5) I further suggest that this 'traveler,' like a very few others whose stories you can find sprinkled oh-so-lightly throughout history... Merovee, for instance... from the Sea... came from a place terrestrial enough, but oh so far away, and I believe that I know the identity of these very, very old Hebrews. I further believe, that if you think about it, without bias, 'Kyrie,' you will find the evidence that still lies within our reach... and the message that it is trying to give us. Before, 'God' forbid, it's too late... I would have posted the other version of this video, but the poster looked a little bit too 'familiar'... if you know what I mean... Welcome... I hope that you found neither my reply nor my assumptions (on either subject) to be too outrageous, maybe... truthfully, the weight of the 'evidence' in the case at hand, even if it is somewhat 'circumstantial' in some instances, seems to be adequate for a case to be made, at least... And, of course, the old maxim, 'A man who acts as his own attorney, has a fool to represent him,' has occurred to me, as well... I'm sure it's just a figure of speech... mostly...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Nov 9, 2014 20:15:01 GMT
Line by line updated paraphrase translation of page 1 of the Voynich Manuscript:
Seeing, my friend, as there is power that will prevail [the power would have to refer to the power of the devastation of the eye], be wakeful. It is the appointed time of the Eye. Know also that opponents, deniers, have been allowed by men. They are now the head evil faction. All that are precious to them will be killed.
Now, that last bit sounds familiar... [/u] Carefully look at all of this knowledge you have in your hand, oh faction of God. The cycle of the moon and the prince of the cycle, Horus, are the same. We wait.
Oh noble ones, trouble comes from the eye. Cry out for help. The eye will foreclose on your knowledge. You are arrogant and wrapped up in your knowledge. You will be wrapped up in that which moves cyclically.
[More sarcasm] Live Long, you who piece together trouble as knowledge. It oppresses the living. It undermines everything about the eye. Bow your head to live. Be humble.
Oh God, live forever. Because they have hardened themselves, they will be snatched up and trodden upon. They imitate life while the humble endeavor.
You are a leech of God's goodness.
The eye will wash everything clean.[/i] [/b]Well, now... this 'Eye' definitely seems serendipitous, considering our Tracing Board symbolism, don't you think? Very much so... [/quote] I think that we should look at this entire post again, in light of what we now 'know' in regard to certain other aspects of history, and prophecy... especially in the terms of Masonry, which we are supposing existed (in some form, at least, if not precisely its present form) from the 'beginning.' Included in the quote above are patently 'masonic' symbols, as well as references to Horus, bringing us back to our Egyptian 'roots,' as well as certain other symbols, such as the 'lamb,' which seem to be 'Christ-ian' in nature. After you've re-read the above passage, thoughtfully, let's begin our study of the message, and its symbolism, and try to make a reasonable guess as to what it means, and who 'sent' it... and let's take the symbol of the 'lamb' as our first subject; after all, it is not only an important 'icon,' but it is definitely referenced in the message above... Magician! Denier of the Eye... Bow down to the Lamb, and twice to me.So, who is this Lamb, and who is the Speaker...? The 'lamb' is better known as 'Agnus Dei,' or the Lamb of God, and the 'Speaker' would seem to be the Lamb's 'daddy,' or... the Ram... and, as we have seen, the Ram is Khnum... Ammon... Jupiter. [/p]
It would seem that 'God' is not dead after all... just somewhat 'eclipsed'... or 'occulted,' if you Will...'buried' in a Mystery...
...got knowledge?
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Post by Mouse on Dec 29, 2014 5:24:25 GMT
i don't have a fancy answer or anything, but does anyone else think that the pictures of plants in the book could be ancient water plants? it's a weird idea, but it was one of my theories when i first learned about this book.
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Post by Gordon on Jan 22, 2015 1:36:31 GMT
Very interesting that its like phoenician or something. Can you translate the rest of it? (quite a lot I know, but it seems quite epic and important information) What are the "bather" people doing/representing? It kind of looks like interdimensional/or astral-type travel.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Jan 22, 2015 13:07:01 GMT
Very interesting that its like phoenician or something. Can you translate the rest of it? (quite a lot I know, but it seems quite epic and important information) What are the "bather" people doing/representing? It kind of looks like interdimensional/or astral-type travel. As to the 'translating,' it was done by a man named Newbold in 1919, however, I would like to reiterate a quote regarding the translation, and I hope that you can 'read between the lines' on this one, especially in regard to our 'Nine Gates,' and then remember that someone will open that 'Ninth Gate,' and the meaning thereof... Here is what makes Newbold’s qualifications for decipherment of the MS so felicitous. Newbold understood that a major clue was to be found in the word "portas", in that its interpreted cabalistic meaning of "gates" would be the secret to the clarification of the Key. Newbold knew that Bacon was well acquainted with the Cabala and would have used such a plan in his Key, for in Bacon’s Epistle on the Nullity of Magic, where he details several ciphering systems, the sixth such system is called, "The Kabbalah of the Nine Chambers".
From Newbold's footnotes we find the following:
"In Cabalistic philosophy the universe consists of God’s thought; thought is expressed in speech; speech is composed of letters; hence the Letters are the ultimate constituents of Things.
The "gates" are the 231 biliteral combinations of the Hebrew Ietters (doubles omitted; 231 permutated pairs added by later writers); they represent the primary combinations of the highest manifestations of the divine Being which are at once the forces which make other things, the material of which they are made, and the channels through which the divine energy streams forth into the lower world. A single quotation from the Sepher Yezirah, will suffice:
He combined (the Letters), weighed them, exchanged them, Aleph with all and all with Aleph, Beth with all and all with Beth, and they go (each) all the way around (the Alphabet). And they are found (comprised) in 231 gates, and everything formed and everything uttered is found to proceed from one Name." Yes... it is 'epic.' Think about it... Why, now, do you suppose that there is such a 'rush' to 'change' the 'words' that you use, and to intersperse letters with numbers in 'non-sense' combinations? They would 'nullify' the 'Word' and the 'transmission' of the 'word.' Do you begin to understand? The same with the 'light,' as I have mentioned also... They can't 'take it away,' but they can 'twist it,' disfigure it... 'dim' it... beyond recognition... FUBAR, if you Will... ...and they will, if they can. A complete train wreck... lolol...
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