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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 10, 2014 3:27:41 GMT
One of the next topics that we need to cover is, I think, that of the 'Son of Man.' Evidently they have much to do with the prognostications, if you Will, that have been made for the Future; Ezekiel, Enoch, Daniel, and 'Jesus' all had something to say on the subject, as well as other written testimony from various sources, and from these we can make an 'educated guess' as to the 'identity' of this 'Son of Man,' which has been identified by many of these sources as the 'Messiah' that is to come. I found an interesting passage that I want to share with you tonight, at least, and then continue on with other interesting pieces on the subject. Once again, I have highlighted certain parts that bear emphasizing... this is one of Daniel's 'revelations:' Sometime in the sixth century BC the prophet Daniel received visions concerning future events, and in one of those visions he saw a heavenly Being in the likeness of a man coming to rule forever and representing the saints of God who would also share in that dominion:
“As my vision continued that night, I saw someone like a son of man coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, honor, and sovereignty over all the nations of the world, so that people of every race and nation and language worshiped him. His rule is eternal—it will never end. His kingdom will never be destroyed.” Daniel 7:13-14
What makes this supernatural revelation so astonishing is that even though this entity whose appearance was that of a man, having a human form, is personally distinct from God (depicted here as the Ancient of Days) he is nonetheless a fully Divine Being.
Note the points of similarity between this Son of Man and Yahweh God. According to the Hebrew Scriptures Yahweh is worshiped and reigns over all creation forever,
“But in the end, the holy people of the Most High will be given the kingdom, and they will rule forever and ever… until the Ancient of Days—the Most High—came and judged in favor of his holy people. Then the time arrived for the holy people to take over the kingdom.… Then the sovereignty, power, and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will last forever, and all rulers will serve and obey him.” Daniel 7:18, 22, 27
And:
“Rejoice, O people of Zion! Shout in triumph, O people of Jerusalem! Look, your king is coming to you. He is righteous and victorious, yet he is humble, riding on a donkey—riding on a donkey’s colt. I will remove the battle chariots from Israel and the warhorses from Jerusalem. I will destroy all the weapons used in battle, and your king will bring peace to the nations. His realm will stretch from sea to sea and from the Euphrates River to the ends of the earth. Because of the covenant I made with you, sealed with blood, I will free your prisoners from death in a waterless dungeon… Yahweh will appear above his people; his arrows will fly like lightning! The Sovereign Yahweh will sound the ram’s horn and attack like a whirlwind from the southern desert. Yahweh of hosts will protect his people, and they will defeat their enemies by hurling great stones. They will shout in battle as though drunk with wine. They will be filled with blood like a bowl, drenched with blood like the corners of the altar. On that day Yahweh their God will rescue his people, just as a shepherd rescues his sheep. They will sparkle in his land.” Zechariah 9:9-11, 14-16
Examining the OT Evidence for The Messianic Identity of Daniel’s Heavenly Figure by Sam Shamoun www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/messiah_sonofman.htmlMeteor showers again tonight, by the way... I saw three last night, on my second break period. It was beautiful... I hope for more tonight; the moon is full, or very nearly, as well. Quite magical, really...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 10, 2014 3:37:52 GMT
The Aramaic phrase Bar 'ěnoš "son of man" is a Semitic expression denoting a single member of humanity, a certain human being, hence "someone." This Aramaic phrase used by Daniel 7:13-14 to describe a quasi-divine figure riding with the clouds of the sky has become an important element of the eschatological-apocalyptic decorum in both Jewish and Christian texts; an eclectic decorum made of various elements such as, the Davidic king, the chosen servant of Deutero-Isaiah, and the "son of man" of Daniel.
In the New Testament the enigmatic figure mentioned by Daniel is almost always identified with Jesus. As one can glean from the philological analysis below, the Aramaic phrase bar 'ěnoš may connote more than a mere human being. It may define a human being in its defining characteristics vis-à-vis God, namely, weakness and mortality. Thus I would suggest rendering the phrase bar 'ěnoš as "son of weakness" or "the weak one." This semantic detail, absent in the New Testament Greek claque, huios (tou) anthrōpou "son of man," may help one better understand Jesus' references to himself as the humblest human being who came "to seek and save the lost one" (Luke 19:10) and whose eternal glory, temporarily overshadowed by incarnation, will be fully and publicly revealed at the end of time (Matthew16:27).
Dan7:13-14: "As I looked on, in the night vision, one like a Son of Man was coming with the clouds of heaven; he reached the Everlasting One and was presented to him. Dominion, glory, and kingship were given to him. All peoples and nations of every language must serve him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that shall not pass away, and his kingship, one that shall not be destroyed."
In its present form, the Book of Daniel dates to the time of the Jews' persecution by Antiochus IV Epiphanes in the years 167-164 BC. The book was written in Hebrew and Aramaic and it contains many hints at the events that marked the political, religious, and cultural milieu in Palestine in the 2 nd century BC.
The book 1 Enoch , composed between 4th century and the turn of the era, is one of the earliest commentaries on Daniel and one of the first evidences that Daniel 7:13-14 was read as a messianic in some Jewish circles of the pre-Christian era. What is even more interesting is that 1 Enoch raises the "Son of Man" to the same level equal to God, making him co-eternal with him, "When they see that Son of Man sitting on the throne of his glory... For from the beginning the Son of Man was hidden, and the Most High preserved him in the presence of his might, and revealed him to the elect" ( 1 Enoch, 62:5-7); or, "For the Lord of spirits has given (them) to him and has glorified him" ( 1 Enoch, 51:5).
That Dan 7:13-14 was read as a messianic prophecy in the Jewish circles in the Talmudic period (beginning with 3 rd century) maybe seen in the excellent comparison made by one Rabbi between two messianic texts, Daniel 7:13 and Zechariah 9:7, "Rabbi Alexandri said, 'Rabbi Joshua opposed two verses, 'It is written, 'And behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven [Dan 7:13] while [elsewhere] it is written, '[Behold, your king comes to you...] lowly, and riding upon an ass!' [Zech 9:7]-if they are meritorious, [Messiah will come] with the clouds of heaven; if not, lowly and riding upon an ass. King Shapur said to Samuel, 'You maintain that the Messiah will come upon an ass: I will rather send him a white horse of mine'" (Sanhedrin, 98a). www.goarch.org/ourfaith/bar-enoshJust for 'reference'...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 11, 2014 4:10:25 GMT
At the first sight, the Aramaic expression bar 'ěnoš "Son of Man" seems to be a reiteration of the Hebrew phrase ben ' ā d ā m ;if this is true, it may be read to designate any human being. This phrase, ben' ā d ā m, appears 14 times in poetic parallels [1] and 93 times in the book of Ezekiel, where it points to man's humility versus God's majesty. Interestingly, it is found only once in the book of Daniel, and designates the prophet as humble receptacle of divine messages (Dan 8:17). If the Hebrew phrase itself was known to the author of the current form of the book of Daniel, we might wonder what was his intention when he chose rather to include the Aramaic phrase bar 'ěnoš in Daniel 7:13? Perhaps the Aramaic phrase is not simply a claque of the Hebrew phrase. The Hebrew word ' ā d ā m "humanity" is connected to the word 'ád ā m ā "ground" (Genesis 2:7; 3:19) and therefore the phrase ben ' ā d ā m underscores man's earthly origin.
On the other hand the etymology of the Aramaic word 'ěnoš "human being, man" in the Aramaic phrase bar 'ěnoš, is still debated. [2] We suggest relating the Aramaic word 'ěnoš to a homonymous root' -n-š I, meaning "to be weak." [3] Relating human being, man, to weakness seems a reasonable and clear path toward solving the etymology of this word. Additionally, while the Hebrew phrase underscores human humility, the result of being taken from the earth, the Aramaic phrase underscores a novel element of this humility, namely, the weakness of the human person when meeting God. [4]
In Daniel 7:13 the Aramaic phrase bar 'ěnoš "Son of Man" connotes a very interesting character. First, the Son of Man needs to be introduced to the heavenly king. Second, he is riding on, or with, the clouds of the sky. He does not need a formal introduction to the king, but rather he reaches him [5] at the end of his journey in the sky.
In a nutshell, God's partner, as depicted by Daniel 7, is a complex individual, rejoicing in the condition and privileges of a (semi-)divine being, while remaining human, submissive before the heavenly King. In this humble position, God's partner may be labeled "the Son of Man," or more precisely, "the son of weakness" or "the weak one." www.goarch.org/ourfaith/bar-enoshKurioser and kurioser... lolol... Which reminds me, I found a really 'curious' amulet that I should share with you, if I can find an image posted; I found it in my book, 'The Spirit of Masonry,' so I'll have to figure out to share that with you... I'm sure there's something I can do about that. Very interesting, really... Of course, as far as the book of Ezekiel is concerned, the 'Son of Man' is really just a messenger... and a 'watchman.' I should probably quote a few more appropriate chapters of that book for you, as well, since we're on the subject. It really is important, since, as I said, it all ties in together... and it would be best if you could all begin to see how 'just' 'God' really is. Believe me, 'He' is much Bigger than you know, but no bigger than 'you' Are...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 11, 2014 4:24:00 GMT
The same writer goes on to explain that: "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see 'the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven' with power and great glory"(Matt 24:30). (NRSV) The "sign of the Son of Man" was interpreted by ancient readers as a reference to the sign of the cross, a fair interpretation, if one agrees with the etymology we have advanced above, and the rendition of the Aramaic phrase as "son of weakness." Thus, the sign of the "weak one" cannot be anything other than the cross, and God, as Paul points out, can imbue the symbol of the cross with the character of his divine power...But, as we have already shown, the only 'sign' that will be given is 'the sign of Jonah,' which was not a cross... and as far as 'weakness' goes, Jonah was certainly guilty on that score, as well. So, what if the sign of 'the weak one' isn't the 'cross?' What if it's actually 'the sign of Jonah?' And, what does that mean...? Of course, a 'cross' may play into it, as well... I wouldn't really be surprised. The description says it's a 'submarine,' but it looks more like a whale, if you ask me... Of course, it could be a submarine... A Yellow Submarine, that is...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 11, 2014 4:54:13 GMT
Now, let's have some further testimony as to the identity of the 'Son of Man' according to 'Enoch,' or at least, the Second Parable of the Book of Enoch:
CHAPTER XLVIII.
1. And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousness Which was inexhaustible: And around it were many fountains of wisdom;
And all the thirsty drank of them, And were filled with wisdom, And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect. 2. And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, And his name before the Head of Days.
3. Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.
4. He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall, And he shall be the light of the Gentiles, And the hope of those who are troubled of heart.
5. All who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before him, And will praise and bless and celebrate with song the Lord of Spirits.
6. And for this reason hath he been chosen and hidden before Him, Before the creation of the world and for evermore.
7. And the wisdom of the Lord of Spirits hath revealed him to the holy and righteous; For he hath preserved the lot of the righteous, Because they have hated and despised this world of unrighteousness, And have hated all its works and ways in the name of the Lord of Spirits: For in his name they are saved, And according to his good pleasure hath it been in regard to their life.
8. In these days downcast in countenance shall the kings of the earth have become, And the strong who possess the land because of the works of their hands;
For on the day of their anguish and affliction they shall not (be able to) save themselves. 9. And I will give them over into the hands of Mine elect:
As straw in the fire so shall they burn before the face of the holy: As lead in the water shall they sink before the face of the righteous, And no trace of them shall any more be found.
10. And on the day of their affliction there shall be rest on the earth, And before them they shall fall and not rise again:
And there shall be no one to take them with his hands and raise them: For they have denied the Lord of Spirits and His Anointed. The name of the Lord of Spirits be blessed.
Houses of the Holy, to be sure...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 11, 2014 5:17:33 GMT
Now, let's have some further testimony as to the identity of the 'Son of Man' according to 'Enoch,' or at least, the Second Parable of the Book of Enoch: CHAPTER XLVIII.
1. And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousness Which was inexhaustible: And around it were many fountains of wisdom;
And all the thirsty drank of them, And were filled with wisdom, And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect. 2. And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, And his name before the Head of Days.
3. Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.
4. He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall, And he shall be the light of the Gentiles, And the hope of those who are troubled of heart.
5. All who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before him, And will praise and bless and celebrate with song the Lord of Spirits.
6. And for this reason hath he been chosen and hidden before Him, Before the creation of the world and for evermore.
7. And the wisdom of the Lord of Spirits hath revealed him to the holy and righteous; For he hath preserved the lot of the righteous, Because they have hated and despised this world of unrighteousness, And have hated all its works and ways in the name of the Lord of Spirits: For in his name they are saved, And according to his good pleasure hath it been in regard to their life.
8. In these days downcast in countenance shall the kings of the earth have become, And the strong who possess the land because of the works of their hands;
For on the day of their anguish and affliction they shall not (be able to) save themselves. 9. And I will give them over into the hands of Mine elect:
As straw in the fire so shall they burn before the face of the holy: As lead in the water shall they sink before the face of the righteous, And no trace of them shall any more be found.
10. And on the day of their affliction there shall be rest on the earth, And before them they shall fall and not rise again:
And there shall be no one to take them with his hands and raise them: For they have denied the Lord of Spirits and His Anointed. The name of the Lord of Spirits be blessed.
Houses of the Holy, to be sure... Now, 'Luke' mentions the 'Son of Man,' too... Luke 21:36 Watch you therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. And what exactly does that mean? Maybe it is explained in the passage above... see what you think... 9. And I will give them over into the hands of Mine elect:
As straw in the fire so shall they burn before the face of the holy: As lead in the water shall they sink before the face of the righteous, And no trace of them shall any more be found.
10. And on the day of their affliction there shall be rest on the earth, And before them they shall fall and not rise again:
Interesting, don't you think...?
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 19, 2014 1:49:08 GMT
Well, I'd like to take up this subject again, since we have additional testimony to give from other sources, as well, to the possible identity of this 'person' who is evidently going to make an appearance at a critical point in events to come, and 'they' seem to have several 'missions' to carry out. From the book of Ezekiel, Chapter 3: Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel.
2 So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll.
3 And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.
4 And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of Israel, and speak with my words unto them.
5 For thou art not sent to a people of a strange speech and of an hard language, but to the house of Israel;
6 Not to many people of a strange speech and of an hard language, whose words thou canst not understand. Surely, had I sent thee to them, they would have hearkened unto thee.
7 But the house of Israel will not hearken unto thee; for they will not hearken unto me: for all the house of Israel are impudent and hardhearted.
8 Behold, I have made thy face strong against their faces, and thy forehead strong against their foreheads.
9 As an adamant harder than flint have I made thy forehead: fear them not, neither be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.
10 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, all my words that I shall speak unto thee receive in thine heart, and hear with thine ears.
11 And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord God; whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear.
12 Then the spirit took me up, and I heard behind me a voice of a great rushing, saying, Blessed be the glory of the Lord from his place.
Now, I do find all of this to be rather illuminating, under the circumstances... Especially considering that Jesus definitely said that he was sent not but to 'seek and to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel.' I guess we know how that went... I believe that he also said something like, 'Other sheep I have, that are not of this flock.' I wonder which valley those were pastured in... At any rate, the passage continues... 17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.
22 And the hand of the Lord was there upon me; and he said unto me, Arise, go forth into the plain, and I will there talk with thee.
23 Then I arose, and went forth into the plain: and, behold, the glory of the Lord stood there, as the glory which I saw by the river of Chebar: and I fell on my face.
24 Then the spirit entered into me, and set me upon my feet, and spake with me, and said unto me, Go, shut thyself within thine house. Great lyrics, really... you should listen to that again.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 19, 2014 2:12:39 GMT
Now, let's re-iterate for a moment, with this quote, and then we will take 'substantiating testimony' from the book of Numbers again...
Sometime in the sixth century BC the prophet Daniel received visions concerning future events, and in one of those visions he saw a heavenly Being in the likeness of a man coming to rule forever and representing the saints of God who would also share in that dominion:
“As my vision continued that night, I saw someone like a son of man coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, honor, and sovereignty over all the nations of the world, so that people of every race and nation and language worshiped him. His rule is eternal—it will never end. His kingdom will never be destroyed.” Daniel 7:13-14
What makes this supernatural revelation so astonishing is that even though this entity whose appearance was that of a man, having a human form, is personally distinct from God (depicted here as the Ancient of Days) he is nonetheless a fully Divine Being.
Note the points of similarity between this Son of Man and Yahweh God. According to the Hebrew Scriptures Yahweh is worshiped and reigns over all creation forever,
“But in the end, the holy people of the Most High will be given the kingdom, and they will rule forever and ever… until the Ancient of Days—the Most High—came and judged in favor of his holy people. Then the time arrived for the holy people to take over the kingdom.… Then the sovereignty, power, and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will last forever, and all rulers will serve and obey him.” Daniel 7:18, 22, 27
Now, a familiar quote from the book of Numbers, chapter 16: Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men:
2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:
3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord?
Just sayin'...
Revelations mentions a 'resurrection of the righteous;' this is known as the 'first resurrection.'
Think about it...
Speaking of 'reparations'... and 'justice for All.'
May 'God' bless the reading of the Word...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 19, 2014 2:41:46 GMT
And I can't help thinking that the 'son of Man' has something to do with the 'Teacher of Righteousness,' and a 'priest' (remember that part of the issue between Moses and Korah concerned the 'priesthood,' and who should serve therein) that was spoken of... here is a quote that I found to be fairly enlightening... Some fragmentary comments on Psalm 37 found in Cave 4 interpret certain statements in that psalm with reference to the Teacher of Righteousness. Verse 23, "It is of the Lord that a man's goings are established…" is said to concern "the priest, the Teacher of [Righteousness,… whom God] established to build for himself the congregation…"; and verses 32ff., "the wicked watcheth the righteous and seeketh to slay him…," are interpreted of "the Wicked [Priest] who [rose up against the Teacher of Righteousness] to put him to death [because he taught…] the law… He laid hands on him, but God 'will not abandon [him into his hand or let him be condemned when he is] brought to trial.'" Parallel to this last comment is one from another fragment, in which Psalms 37:14ff., "the wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow; to cast down the poor and needy…," is read as a reference to "the wicked of Ephraim and Manasseh, who will seek to lay hands on the priest and the men of his council in the hour of trial which is to come upon them. But God will redeem them out of their hands." From these fragments it is learned that the Teacher of Righteousness was a priest and that among his opponents was one outstanding figure called the *Wicked Priest.
These two facts are confirmed, and further information is supplied about the Teacher, in the commentary on Habakkuk from Cave 1 (1Qp Hab.). From the prophet's complaint in Habakkuk 1:4 that "the wicked doth beset the righteous" (interpreted of [the Wicked Priest] and the Teacher of Righteousness) onward, the Teacher plays a prominent part in the exposition. Those among the nations who are called upon in Habakkuk 1:5 to wonder and be astonished at the work which God is about to do, which they "will not believe though it be told," are the unfaithful ones who paid no heed to the words which the Teacher of Righteousness spoke from the mouth of God, refusing to believe "when they hear all that is [coming upon] the last generation from the mouth of the priest into [whose heart] God put [wisdom] to interpret all the words of his servants and prophets" (1Qp Hab. 2:7–9). This is in line with what is already known about the Teacher's mission from the Zadokite Admonition. The Teacher understood the course of future events by divine illumination: on Habakkuk 2:1ff. the commentator states that "God commanded Habakkuk to write the things that were coming on the last generation," but did not inform him when the epoch would be fulfilled. And as for the words, "so he may run who reads it," their interpretation concerns the Teacher of Righteousness, to whom God made known "all the mysteries of the words of His servant the prophets" (1Qp Hab. 7:1–5). The words of the prophets remained mysteries (razim), even to the prophets themselves, until the interpretation (pesher) was revealed to the Teacher; after that, the mysteries were mysteries no more, at least to those who heard and believed him. Of them the words of Habakkuk 2:4 ("the righteous shall live by his faith") were spoken: "Their interpretation concerns all the doers of the law in the house of Judah, whom God will save from the house of judgment because of their toil and their faith in the Teacher of Righteousness" (1Qp Hab. 8:1–3). www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0019_0_19666.htmlMysteries no more...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 19, 2014 3:01:38 GMT
So he may run who reads it...I showed you this, didn't I? Having to do with the book of Abraham the Jew... And who's a better 'runner' than our old 'friend,' Mercury...? Hermes... And I think they've got a message for you... It almost looks like a 'Hermethena' to me... you've got to look closely, sometimes... I'd like to have TrixxyKatt's lenses... pretty glamor-ous... you should see them sometime... or maybe I should say, 'see through them, sometime'.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 20, 2014 2:54:17 GMT
Now, we see that the 'priesthood' plays a large part in all of this; it's an important point... evidently, important enough to make a stand for. Now, I personally believe that the 'stand' should come wherever our own personal 'relationship' with 'God' is undermined by forces outside ourselves, for motives that have nothing do with our own eternal well-being, but someone else's power or profit, in whatever 'mask' that comes. You see, the 'priest' is your 'mediator' with 'God,' or in other words, your 'conduit,' by which that Power is channeled, from 'Heaven' to you. They are 'God's Voice,' if you Will, as they also serve to 'translate' His Will for you, to you. This is kind of a big deal, if you see what I mean... They control 'God' for you, and your access to 'Him.' Now, I'd like to continue on that thought with a couple of other appropriate subjects which have been somewhat 'mysterious' over the years,- a priest, named Melchizedek, and a 'Voice' known as the Metatron. I'm not sure exactly what bearing they will have on the Son of Man, on the whole, but I think that there are some interesting correlations that may give us some additional 'illumination.' O, let there be light... This looks Good...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 21, 2014 5:23:47 GMT
All right... let's take our first 'piece of testimony' in regard to this 'priest' known as Melchisedec, also known as the 'King of Salem.' Hebrews 7, King James Version (KJV)
7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.
5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:
21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. Well, how do you like that? Maybe we should just contemplate that for a minute... This is evidently the Priest that holds the Keys to Death and Hell; I wonder who it is?
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 21, 2014 6:01:19 GMT
Interestingly, there is a Dead Sea scroll that identifies Melchizedek as the one who will carry out the vengeance of God's judgments and the one who delivers the people from the hand of Belial and the spirits of his lot. Here is a translation for those who are interested...
The Coming of Melchizedek Dead Sea Scroll: 11Q13, Column 2
(...) And concerning what Scripture says, "In this year of Jubilee you shall return, everyone of you, to your property" (Lev. 25:13) And what is also written; "And this is the manner of the remission; every creditor shall remit the claim that is held against a neighbor, not exacting it of a neighbor who is a member of the community, because God`s remission has been proclaimed" (Deut.15;2) the interpretation is that it applies to the Last Days and concerns the captives, just as Isaiah said: "To proclaim the Jubilee to the captives" (Isa. 61;1) (...) just as (...) and from the inheritance of Melchizedek, for (... Melchizedek), who will return them to what is rightfully theirs. He will proclaim to them the Jubilee, thereby releasing them from the debt of all their sins. He shall proclaim this decree in the first week of the jubilee period that follows nine jubilee periods. Then the "Day of Atonement" shall follow after the tenth jubilee period, when he shall atone for all the Sons of Light, and the people who are predestined to Melchizedek. (...) upon them (...) For this is the time decreed for the "Year of Melchizedek`s favour", and by his might he will judge God`s holy ones and so establish a righteous kingdom, as it is written about him in the Songs of David ; "A godlike being has taken his place in the council of God; in the midst of divine beings he holds judgement" (ps. 82;1). Scripture also says about him ; "Over it take your seat in the highest heaven; A divine being will judge the peoples" (Ps. 7;7-8) Concerning what scripture says ; " How long will you judge unjustly , and show partiality with the wicked? Selah" (Ps. 82;2), the interpretation applies to Belial and the spirits predestined to him, because all of them have rebelled, turning from God`s precepts and so becoming utterly wicked. Therefore Melchizedek will thoroughly prosecute the vengeance required by God`s statutes. Also, he will deliver all the captives from the power of Belial, and from the power of all the spirits destined to him. Allied with him will be all the "righteous divine beings"(Isa. 61;3). (The ...) is that whi(ch ...all) the divine beings.
The visitation is the Day of Salvation that He has decreed through Isaiah the prophet concerning all the captives, inasmuch as Scripture says, "How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of the messenger who announces peace, who brings good news, who announces salvation, who says to Zion "Your divine being reigns"." (Isa. 52:7) This scriptures' interpretation: "the mountains" are the prophets, they who were sent to proclaim God`s truth and to prophesy to all Israel. "The messengers" is the Anointed of the spirit, of whom Daniel spoke; "After the sixty-two weeks, an Anointed shall be cut off" (Dan. 9:26) The "messenger who brings good news, who announces Salvation" is the one of whom it is written; "to proclaim the year of the LORD`s favour, the day of the vengeance of our God; to comfort all who mourn" (Isa. 61:2) This scripture`s interpretation: he is to instruct them about all the periods of history for eternity (... and in the statutes) of the truth. (...) (.... dominion) that passes from Belial and returns to the Sons of Light (....) (...) by the judgment of God, just as it is written concerning him; "who says to Zion "Your divine being reigns" (Isa. 52:7) "Zion" is the congregation of all the sons of righteousness, who uphold the covenant and turn from walking in the way of the people. "Your divine being" is Melchizedek, who will deliver them from the power of Belial. Concerning what scripture says, "Then you shall have the trumpet sounded loud; in the seventh month . . . " (Lev. 25:9) ad2004.com/Biblecodes/Hebrewmatrix/melchizedek.html
You're really going to love the 'serendipity' of the connections here... for instance, in that last paragraph is a reference to the 'trumpet being sounded loud,' which is a reference to both the 'trumpets' of Revelation, as well as the 'trumpet' of Joshua; I'm going to show you how this all ties together in the 'Entry Number 18' post. All I can say is...
That's good news...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 26, 2014 3:44:07 GMT
They will say [...] concerning him, and concerning [...] and ... ... (2 lines unrecoverable) ... they will [...] hidden mysteries ... ... (lines 27-eop, and first 2 lines of next page, unrecoverable) ... out of [...] the All. They will [...] this. The lawyers will bury him quickly. They will call him 'impious man', 'lawless', 'impure'. And on the third day, he will rise from the dead ... ... (lines 12-eop, and first 3 lines of next page, unrecoverable) ... holy disciples. And the Savior will reveal to them the world that gives life to the All.
But those in the heavens spoke many words, together with those on the earth, and those under the earth. ... ... (lines 11-eop unrecoverable)
... which will happen in his name. Furthermore, they will say of him that he is unbegotten, though he has been begotten, (that) he does not eat, even though he eats, (that) he does not drink, even though he drinks, (that) he is uncircumcised, though he has been circumcised, (that) he is unfleshly, though he has come in the flesh, (that) he did not come to suffering, <though> he came to suffering, (that) he did not rise from the dead, <though> he arose from the dead.
But all the tribes and all the peoples will speak the truth who are receiving from you yourself, O Melchizedek, Holy One, High-Priest, the perfect hope and the gifts of life. I am Gamaliel, who was sent to [...] the congregation of the children of Seth, who are above thousands of thousands, and myriads of myriads, of the aeons [...] essence of the aeons, aba[...] aiai ababa. O divine [...] of the [...] nature [...]! O Mother of the aeons, Barbelo! O first-born of the aeons, splendid Doxomedon Dom[...]! O glorious one, Jesus Christ! O chief commanders of the luminaries, you powers Armozel, Oroiael, Daveithe, Eleleth, and you man-of-light, immortal aeon Pigera-Adamas, and you good god of the beneficent worlds, Mirocheirothetou, through Jesus Christ, the Son of God! This is the one whom I proclaim, inasmuch as there has visited the One who truly exists, among those who exist [...] do(es) not exist, Abel Baruch - that you (sg.) might be given the knowledge of the truth [...], that he is from the race of the High-priest, which is above thousands of thousands, and myriads of myriads, of the aeons. The adverse spirits are ignorant of him, and (of) their (own) destruction. Not only (that, but) I have come to reveal to you the truth, which is within the brethren. He included himself in the living offering, together with your offspring. He offered them up as an offering to the All. For it is not cattle that you will offer up for sin(s) of unbelief, and for the ignorances, and (for) all the wicked deeds which they will do [...]. And they do not reach the Father of the All [...] the faith ... ... (20 lines unrecoverable)
For the waters which are above [...] that receive baptism [...]. But receive that baptism which is with the water which [...], while he is coming ... ... (3 lines unrecoverable) ... baptism as they ... ... (18 lines unrecoverable) ... pray for the offspring of the archons and all the angels, together with the seed <which> flowed forth from the Father of the All [...] the entire [...] from [...] there were engendered the gods and the angels, and the men [...] out of the seed, all of the natures, those in the heavens and those upon the earth and those under the earth ... ... (14 lines unrecoverable) ... nature of the females [...], among those that are in the [...]. They were bound with [...] But this is not (the) true Adam nor (the) true Eve.
For when they ate of the tree of knowledge, they trampled the Cherubim and the Seraphim with the flaming sword. They [...], which was Adam's, [...] the world-rulers, and [...] them out [...] after they had brought forth [...] offspring of the archons and their worldly things, these belonging to ... ... (13 lines unrecoverable) ... light [...]. And the females and the males, those who exist with [...] hidden from every nature, and they will renounce the archons [...] who receive from him the [...]. For they are worthy of [...] immortal, and great [...], and great [...], and great [...] sons of men [...] disciples [...] image, and [...] from the light [...] which is holy. For [...] from the beginning [...] a seed ... ... (lines 13-eop unrecoverable)
But I will be silent [...], for we are the brethren who came down from the living [...]. They will [...] upon the ... ... (1 line unrecoverable) ... of Adam, [...], Abel, Enoch, Noah, [...] you, Melchizedek, the Priest of God Most High, [...] those who [...] women ... ... (lines 14-eop unrecoverable) ... these two who have been chosen will at no time nor in any place will they be convicted, whenever they have been begotten, by their enemies, by their friends, nor by strangers, nor their (own) kin, (nor) by the impious, nor the pious. All of the adverse natures will [...] them, whether those that are manifest, or those that are not manifest, together with those that dwell in the heavens, and those that are upon the earth, and those that are under the earth. They will make war [...] every one. For [...], whether in the ... ... (3 lines unrecoverable) ... many ... ... (2 lines unrecoverable) And these in the [...] every one will [...]. These will [...] with every blow [...] weaknesses. These will be confined in other forms, and will be punished. These the Savior will take them away, and they will overcome everything, not with their mouths and words, but by means of the [...], which will be done for them. He will destroy Death.
These things which I was commanded to reveal, these things reveal as I (have done). But that which is hidden, do not reveal to anyone, unless it is revealed to you (to do so)." quote from Melchizedek
Translated by Søren Giversen and Birger A. Pearson
gnosis.org/naghamm/melchiz.html
More interesting correlations... and I think it's interesting to note that it says 'through Jesus Christ;' how can this Melki-Tzadok be Jesus, if it is 'through Jesus' that he is addressed, among other things, such as the 'good god,' whom we know under other names... le Bon Dieu, for instance... or, maybe, Bona Dea... It is also an interesting correlation that this song feature in "Mrs. Doubtfire," in which Robin Williams played the feature role... Fire... imagine that... ...and look,- wings... on her feet, maybe? Maybe...
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