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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 27, 2013 18:26:17 GMT
Welcome to my new ProBoards forum! I've decided to make it into a sort of an 'alchemical notebook,' of sorts, and a place where I can discuss such historical, esoteric, and philosophical topics as interest me, or seem to bring me closer to my destination... therefore, I'm going to name it The Paradise Journal; it can serve as something of a diary, and logbook, as well, I suppose. I truly hope that some of you fellow-travelers will check in from time to time, if even just to sign the guestbook, so to speak... I've met some really great people on the way, so far. One of them might have been you... If you need any assistance with our new forum, staff(me) is available to assist you as soon as I can get to it. If it's urgent, please send the message in caps... that seems to work as an attention-getter, when all else fails. There... I'm going to spend the rest of the day adding to the threads, and topics, and generally fine-tuning things, but please feel free to jump in at any point along the way... suggestions are welcome, as are 'guests.' Come one, come all... come as you are... and, just to make things 'fun,' I've censored one word, and one word only... I wonder if you'll hit it. I daresay that it will make itself apparent if you go there... I'm hoping that this isn't the forum for that word, anyway. And so... let the games begin... And may the journey be 'lightened' with the voices of True friendship. I'm really looking forward to this...
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 27, 2013 23:12:32 GMT
Oh, and just so you know... I'll be kicking off the forum with some threads that I made on another 'sibling forum,' which the readers were evidently not allowed 'permission' to respond to; probably just one of those darned 'parakeet mirror sites,' or some such tomfoolery... There were evidently readers, but I never got to hear any response, which I found to be most regrettable, not to mention 'creepy,' and I hope by this means to alleviate the silence, so to speak... I can stretch my wings with some layout and design again, as I have the spare time, along with the writing, which my great 'mentor,' Lou, tells me that if I'm not being paid, I shouldn't be writing it for them. He should know... he taught university courses in writing to sell, and being generally successful, which he was... I've seen the pictures. I told him that I was quite willing to take my pay in general satisfaction, but... I'm not even getting much of that, so... I'll try it this way, and see what happens. The 'journal' or 'diary' aspect of the forum may come into play along the way, in a more active way... you just don't know, do you? I've been surprised before; it's the beauty, and the terror, of life... This place is terrible...Indeed. But this time, I will at least get to be the 'moderator.' Yeah...
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Post by Astraea on Aug 31, 2013 2:49:55 GMT
Hello GoldenFleeced,
How are you?
I am looking for Cross of Lorraine - and friends...
Ps. Nice looking site - my friends at Bannedlikeproductions.com could use your help...
Astraea
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 31, 2013 3:04:27 GMT
Hello GoldenFleeced, How are you? I am looking for Cross of Lorraine - and friends... Ps. Nice looking site - my friends at Bannedlikeproductions.com could use your help... Astraea Wow, Astraea... I'm so happy to see that you dropped by. I really am. The Cross of Lorraine was always around... you know... like the stars... And thank you for saying so, about the site, that is... I used to have a lot of fun with making websites, and it's been a long time since I had the fun, without the worries of saying the 'wrong' thing. I seem to have a 'talent' for that, as well... I may not have a lot of company here, but a few friends is really all you need, isn't that what they say? And I always counted you for one of those... I still do. You probably also need five gold stars... just because... identification issues, and all... Much love to you, and all of your friends.
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Post by Astraea on Aug 31, 2013 3:11:18 GMT
Hello GoldenFleeced, How are you? I am looking for Cross of Lorraine - and friends... Ps. Nice looking site - my friends at Bannedlikeproductions.com could use your help... Astraea Wow, Astraea... I'm so happy to see that you dropped by. I really am. The Cross of Lorraine was always around... you know... like the stars... And thank you for saying so, about the site, that is... I used to have a lot of fun with making websites, and it's been a long time since I had the fun, without the worries of saying the 'wrong' thing. I seem to have a 'talent' for that, as well... I may not have a lot of company here, but a few friends is really all you need, isn't that what they say? And I always counted you for one of those... I still do. You probably also need five gold stars... just because... identification issues, and all... Much love to you, and all of your friends.
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Post by Astraea on Aug 31, 2013 3:13:09 GMT
Thanks - IAM IAM sent me here...
I know that she lives in Oregon, and so I shall be going there soon to find her...
so if you know her, please have her email me, or post here?
I would prefer that she come to me, but that is what it is
Note: I don't have many friends left at this point.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Aug 31, 2013 3:20:34 GMT
Thanks - IAM IAM sent me here... I know that she lives in Oregon, and so I shall be going there soon to find her... so if you know her, please have her email me, or post here? I would prefer that she come to me, but that is what it is Note: I don't have many friends left at this point. The Cross of Lorraine, you mean...? Lives in Oregon...? That is me, of course, Astraea... and you were going to come to see me once before, but it didn't work out. I remember... I still live in Oregon, but have thought recently of traveling, maybe later in the year... or the first of the year. I hope you consider that you always had a friend in me; and you still do. You can send messages here, I think... at least, you could on Arthur's forum. I wouldn't mind asking him a few questions as to the differences in the forums; addresses, and the lack of advertising, which I'm not necessarily complaining about, but... I'm still just getting my feet wet, and hoped to hear a few friendly voices, here and there, for a change. Anytime...
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Post by Astraea on Sept 1, 2013 1:13:30 GMT
Yes,
I have found you then... I want to know why you sought me out... it is hard for me to travel, as I take care of my dad - but I live in Tacoma, which is not far from where you live - I believe it was Medford or thereabouts (Ashland?)...
please understand that this has been a difficult path for me, and that I do not trust anyone at all...
My heart, though it is full of more love than can be contained in a single universe, or reality...grows weary.
I am empty now of former fears that I had when I was more human... but I remain vigilant.
It would help if I might ask you some questions; and that you would answer these truthfully..
The reasons why you (and you personally) and the others were looking for me when this started?
And what was expected form me once I was found?
There are some parts of this story that are missing and as things change, and events move forward, these things I want to know.
Will you help me?
Peter
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Post by Astraea on Sept 1, 2013 1:38:46 GMT
I am warmed by your welcome, and for that I am grateful to you.
Love
Astraea
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 1, 2013 3:13:03 GMT
Yes, I have found you then... I want to know why you sought me out... it is hard for me to travel, as I take care of my dad - but I live in Tacoma, which is not far from where you live - I believe it was Medford or thereabouts (Ashland?)... please understand that this has been a difficult path for me, and that I do not trust anyone at all... My heart, though it is full of more love than can be contained in a single universe, or reality...grows weary. I am empty now of former fears that I had when I was more human... but I remain vigilant. It would help if I might ask you some questions; and that you would answer these truthfully.. The reasons why you (and you personally) and the others were looking for me when this started?
And what was expected form me once I was found? There are some parts of this story that are missing and as things change, and events move forward, these things I want to know. Will you help me? Peter The truth is, Peter... Astraea... that I was never actually 'looking for' anybody, ever; it might be closer to the point to say that I was waiting/hoping to be 'found.' I was posting at the 'bannedlikeproductions' forum along with Flaming Sword, and Sugarelf, and enjoying the storytelling that we were doing, mostly... and I saw your posts among them. You struck me, for some reason; the truth is, that I have saved one of your 'drawings' as a desktop for my computer, because it 'resonated' with me, somehow, if you'll forgive the expression... Your calls to the stars appealed to me, and your 'gentleness.' I thought of you often in that way... I have never been anything but honest, within the confines of the 'electronic medium,' which seems to dictate that we are, by necessity, not 'ourselves' (which I tend to forget), but I have never been 'devious' as to my methods or means, or identity; only guarded, by necessity, as are you. The reason that I would seek to know others, such as yourself, would be to understand my own place in all of this... and the serendipities of our meeting at all, in a world as full of people as the universe is stars. I find it all to be quite... happy... and mysterious... and exciting... Truthfully, Astraea, I can appreciate any kind hand extended along the way... and I always felt that yours was one of those. At least, that is what I would choose to believe... and do. You are always welcome here...
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Post by Astraea on Sept 1, 2013 6:46:36 GMT
Thank you for responding... and much to think about, things are a lot farther along than they were when this began.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Sept 2, 2013 19:29:38 GMT
I'm sorry for the delayed response, Astraea, but... I work, and then I sleep... sometimes, it seems as if that's all I care to do. I must need some heavy 'repairs'... lol...
I daresay that things have changed for us all since this little adventure began itself, several years ago it's been now... and I daresay that we have yet to see some changes coming. Personally, I can't wait for our 'apocalypse' to begin... this little 'dance of the seven veils,' I suppose you could say. Seven zonei, seven planetary spirits, seven angels... and when the seventh angel 'sounds,' or the seventh 'gate' has been passed...
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Interestingly, this is Revelation 11:15.
I plan to do some work here today and this evening, since I have this day scheduled 'off,' and I am having a good time putting things down, that I've been thinking about lately... and some things I still can't quite put down...
But this is a good place for me to come to; I can speak my mind, and not worry whether or not anyone answers... I just enjoy doing it, and I feel as if the time is finally at hand that we have all been waiting for. This seems to be a means for me to take some of the pressure off, in a way... to ex-press myself. My hope for you is that you find what you were looking for... whatever that is... and I hope the same for myself. That seems fair enough.
We can live 'gently,' Astraea... I can well imagine such a thing.
Take care of yourself...
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Post by Nyhee7 on Feb 17, 2014 16:04:51 GMT
I hope you are doing well. I hope God is protecting you from cruelty and maliciousness. I hope you are on a path that will take you to the way of life that Jesus taught.
I wanted to say hi, and thank you for being nice to me when so many were mocking me. You have an amazing mind, and I hope you never let the others make you feel small, like they tried to do to me, nor make God small in your eyes, the way they tried to do with me, so as to make me think them as larger and more in command.
I know we Christians have come to trust in the bible, and I do trust most of the teachings of Jesus, or Joshua, since his is representing the Joshua that followed Moses, with the same name, but changed in the new testament for who knows what reason, however, the book of Revelation of John is a book that was hotly contested in the past before it became canonized, and I believe for good reasons. However, I have even better reasons to not believe in its authenticity as a book inspired by God. I hope this does not hurt your view of things, but instead gives you some hope for a better turn of events, or at least, paint God in a better light.
The book of Revelation is built up mostly of apocalyptic old testament verses found among the prophets, and something else, something amiss. For we have, in the book of Revelation two instances where God in the old testament is disobeyed, and Jesus, one of his sons, and our king, in the new testament is disobeyed. One seems trivial, the other is a total reversal of what Jesus taught. And I think, once you see the two put together, you will see something deeper. A trap, a trap set for the antichrist, or one who wishes to be a false messiah...
Rev: 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.
Deuteronomy 17:16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Only he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor lead back the people to Egypt, to multiply horses; for Jehovah hath said unto you, Ye shall not return again any more that way. - Darby Bible
But the kings did use horses, like Egypt did, they were also told one sentence later:
17:17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
But they did that too.
We have a law broken here, a law given to Moses by God, and a prophecy, long before it happened. They trusted in horses, and had many wives, and they turned their hearts away from God and his way of life.
We will come back to the horse thingy.
Let us see how they disobeyed Jesus:
Matthew 5:43-47 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Rev 6:9-11 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Avenge our blood?
The whole book of Revelation seems to be about punishment and vengeance. It is more than understandable. When you get hurt, you really, really get hurt. It feels like righteousness to be angry at someone who hurts you, but then, we hurt others too, don't we? Yes we do. And eventually, we will hurt someone really badly, and then, all of a sudden, we want them to be the forgiving person. Jesus starts sounding pretty sane when it comes our time to be judged, doesn't he? But when our enemies have their heads on the chopping block, we kind of forget that forgiveness Jesus taught. And yeah, sometimes we do pray our enemies are defeated, or even killed, but it doesn't make us saintly. It makes us human, but it isn't Godly. It isn't what Jesus taught.
You ever wonder why the Elijah to come in the last days, spoken of by the prophet Malachi, was told to know the laws?
Malachi 4 1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
If you are Elijah, in the spirit of the office it was sent, You would take this whole passage very seriously, would you not?
I would, if I were him.
And knowing the law, it seems he would know that something was amiss about all those horses used by Jesus in Revelation. In fact, if Jesus were to ride a horse into battle, he'd be sinning, wouldn't he?
And that's the trap. Whoever comes as the false messiah, well, he has the bible as his guide, doesn't he? He's got to fulfill biblical prophecy, right? So in this day and age, that means he has to come in riding on a horse now.... what a perfect trap. If you want to fool the people, you have to break God's law, and have his saints break the teachings of Jesus, while on the reverse, if you want to live, you can't come down as a messiah any other way, because, ... current day Christians are taught to expect Revelation to come to pass, just as it is written. So in effect, there can't ever be another Messiah other than Jesus who died on the cross. And he will rule the way he see's fit, not according to Revelation, or the desires of humankind, but according to the will of God and his way of life, which is structure with flexibility, law lived full of grace and love, much grace, much love.
In Isaiah, it says, to the law and the testimony, if they speak not according to this, there is no light in them. I believe this really does apply to the law of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Testimony may have meant something different earlier, but it is a theme carried on into the new testament.
In fact, this very theme, like a sick joke, can be found in Revelation itself, kind of a warning, in plain site, like warnings found on twenty dollar bills of towers being knocked down....
"So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus." (Revelation 12:17)
Not very nice, is it, when it's done to you...
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Post by Nyhee7 on Feb 17, 2014 16:11:40 GMT
I mean, to them, GF, I was not referring to you, on that last sentence. Be well.
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Apr 3, 2014 3:40:29 GMT
I mean, to them, GF, I was not referring to you, on that last sentence. Be well. Hello, again, Nyhee... I'm sorry that it's been so long since I've been on the forum, but I've had a lot of thinking to do... not to mention the fact that I keep myself fairly busy otherwise, trying to make a living here, with the thought of 'getting ahead' somehow, so that I can accomplish some personal goals, really, but it seems that you can't always get what you want (or, at least, not exactly when you wanted it)... Still, one can't help hoping, I suppose, so I keep pressing on. Time to study and post seems way too short as it is, and the subjects that I am interested in are rather obscure, to say the least, so I took some to 'process' the things that I've discovered, and I have come to some conclusions of my own that are, I believe, rather unique and will most likely be extremely unpopular; therefore, I can pretty much expect that any mocking/maliciousness that I've experienced so far will have been something like a 'warm-up round,' and that's one more good reason not to say what I have to say... but it's not a good enough reason, I'm afraid. There are some things that I have to say, and I'm going to say them... now... because they need to be said. I don't think that anybody else is going to say them, because... they can't. It's a 'giant,' all right, Nyhee, that has to come down... and the only one that they could get to take a poke at it was a 'kid' that foolishly believed that he could, because his 'father' said so. And what do you know...? He did... As far as the book of 'the Revelation' (of St John, remember) goes, it is greatly misunderstood, that is true. People tend to mistake Judgment for Justice, I think... and the 'revelation' or 'apocalypse' is just what it says that it is; those things which have been 'hidden' (and I mean that both exoterically, as well as esoterically) will be revealed (just as advertised), and the words of this book will all make sense when they are interpreted correctly. Of course, you have to remember that some people have a lot to lose here, and a correct interpretation of both the 'law' and the 'prophets' is not going to pay out very well; I have a thesis of my own on these subjects, and I mean to give it here, beginning yesterday, the first day of April (Primus), which symbolically marks the beginning of a 'new year,' as well as a new year for me, personally; the book of 'the Revelation' is the story of redemption, and resurrection, and restitution by way of Justice... the True 'Law' of 'God,' which is Love triumphant, and the means by which these people, and all of those like them that came after, will find their faith rewarded by Divine Natural Law, which is not malicious in its actions... although it may seem somewhat 'merciless,' since it does actually demand that its actions be followed, and realized. It is written that My people perish for a lack of knowledge, and that couldn't be more True, Nyhee... it's high time, I think for the people to be given some perspective on history... both future and past. This moment includes both... a vision of the future and a clear look at the past; we need them both in order to understand where we stand, between them, and why... The horses are tied in, symbolically, with War... Neptune gave Man his 'warhorses,' his favorite thing, in order to prosper him in battle, I suppose (I'm sure his intentions were Good... Lol...) and then, of course, it is said that the horse was Lucifer's favorite animal of sacrifice, due to the fact that the horse is the only animal known to actually weep tears at the death of its master, and it is further said that the Merovingian kings were laid in their tombs with the heads of horses... for some reason. But the connection that you have given would seem to be with warhorses... war no more... the book is just rife with obscure symbolism that only a true hermeticist could appreciate; and how many of those do you know these days? Lol... I hope that you make another appearance in the future, as I get the ball rolling here, and do some 'revealing' of my own... a little bit of veil-lifting, if you're still into that kind of thing... Lolol... I must say, I couldn't be any less popular, so... what the Hell? Right? Or, at least, True... See you around, Nyhee. You be well, two...
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