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Post by ayraman on Oct 3, 2013 19:47:26 GMT
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 4, 2013 1:56:11 GMT
Hey Golden! Ha ha! I found something. Wasn't sure where to put it so I'll dump it here. lol It contains your new favorite word. from p.453 of Star Names, Richard Hinckley Allen, 1889. Phoenice was the early Greek name, borrowed from its constellation, for this "lovely northern light" and the "most practically useful star in the heavens"; but for many centuries it has been Stella Polaris, the Pole-star, or simply Polaris,— The Italian astronomer Riccioli's (1598–1671) Pollaris; this position seeming to be first recognized in literature by Dante when he wrote in the Paradiso: The mouth imagine of the horn
That in the point beginneth of the axis
Round about which the primal wheel revolves. Euclid (circa 300 B.C.) said in his Phainomena: A star is visible between the Bears (Ursa Major and Ursa Minor), not changing its place, but always revolving upon itself; Hipparchos (circa 160-120 B.C.), that the pole was "in a vacant spot forming a quadrangle with three other stars," both of these calling this (Greek) Polos, the (Latin) Polus of Lucan (39-65A.D.), Ovid (43 B.C.-18?A.D.), and other classical Latins; and Euphratean observers had called their pole-star Pul, or Bil. But, although other astronomical writers used these words for some individual star, there is no certainty as to which was intended, for it should be remembered that during many millenniums the polar point has gradually been approaching our pole-star, which 2000 years ago was far removed from it,— in Hipparchos' (circa 160-120 B.C.) time 12°24' away according to his own statement quoted by Marinus of Tyre and cited by the second-century Greek astronomer Ptolemy. Miss Clerke writes as to this:
{p.454} "The entire millennium before the Christian era may count for an interregnum as regards Pole-stars. Alpha (α) Draco (Thuban) had ceased to exercise that office; Alruccabah (Polaris) had not yet assumed it." Kochab (the beta, β, star of Ursa Minor), and kappa (κ) of Draco, at different times in that epoch, may have been considered as this pole-star, the last a 4th-magnitude about 10° distant from the true pole; although the 5th-magnitude b, 4° away in Alexandrian-Greek astronomer Eratosthenes' (276?-196 B.C.) day, perhaps was intended. And this is not unlikely, as this inconspicuous object, for some reason, was sufficiently noteworthy among the Chinese to bear the title How Kung, the Empress. The (Greek) aei phanes, "ever visible," of the 5th-century Stobaeus may have referred to our Polaris, then about 7° distant from the pole. The fact that the Polaris of his day did not exactly mark the pole was noted by Pytheas, the Greek astronomer and navigator of Massilia, the modern Marseilles, about 320 B.C.; and till this discovery the belief was prevalent that the heavenly pole was absolutely fixed. In none of the foregoing cases' does a single star seem to be mentioned as a guide in navigation; but as knowledge in this art increased, our alpha (α) took the place of its constellation as Stella Maris, a title that Saint Jerome, in his Onomasticon, applied to the Virgin Mary; there, however, with no marine, or stellar, connection. But a star, being always a symbol of sanctity, was peculiarly so of the holiest of women, so that this title of the chief star of heaven was adopted as one interpretation of her Jewish name Miriam.
www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Polaris.htmlHello, ayraman... that really is one of my new favorite words. I also found the 'horn' reference interesting, as it evidently relates to a single 'horn,' and I might suggest that of the unicorn... It beats a rhino in the sky, if you ask me... 'lighter' on its feet.. I also thought that the connection to Marseilles was extremely providential; I think fondly of Marseilles for reasons of my own, still... Which reminds me that I wanted to do something with that unicorn subject, eventually... you brought up some interesting thoughts in that regard. I have some quick thoughts to put down in my journal. I don't have too much time tonight... you know, duty calls... lol... and I've got the night-watch. Hopefully, I'll see you around...
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Post by ayraman on Oct 6, 2013 4:29:59 GMT
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 8, 2013 22:34:54 GMT
Hello, ayraman... that really is one of my new favorite words. I also found the 'horn' reference interesting, as it evidently relates to a single 'horn,' and I might suggest that of the unicorn... It beats a rhino in the sky, if you ask me... 'lighter' on its feet.. I also thought that the connection to Marseilles was extremely providential; I think fondly of Marseilles for reasons of my own, still... Which reminds me that I wanted to do something with that unicorn subject, eventually... you brought up some interesting thoughts in that regard. I have some quick thoughts to put down in my journal. I don't have too much time tonight... you know, duty calls... lol... and I've got the night-watch. Hopefully, I'll see you around... Well you would be interested to know my adam kadmon zodiac desktop pic has for the sign of capricorn the goat-fish or the unicorn. Thought that would be an interesting little tidbit in light of recent conversations. You will. Yep. You know that our conversations have always been a source of both delight, and consternation, to me... coming in alternate currents, if you know what I mean. You cause me to extend myself... and what better friend could one ask for, really? Your insights on things are often unique, and acute... and you shed your own light on things that would otherwise have remained somewhat mysterious to me. I can only thank you for that, and I do. It often seems that I could go on talking to you forever... and not run out of material. Lol... I look forward to our continued conversations...
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Post by ayraman on Oct 16, 2013 22:07:26 GMT
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Post by Goldenfleeced on Oct 17, 2013 3:33:34 GMT
You know that our conversations have always been a source of both delight, and consternation, to me... coming in alternate currents, if you know what I mean. You cause me to extend myself... and what better friend could one ask for, really? Your insights on things are often unique, and acute... and you shed your own light on things that would otherwise have remained somewhat mysterious to me. I can only thank you for that, and I do. It often seems that I could go on talking to you forever... and not run out of material. Lol... I look forward to our continued conversations... Oh dearest friend, you give the chaos of thought I sometimes have a direction/path to go in many times. You leave an awful lot to think about yourself dearest one. Sometimes I wouldn't know where to begin or if I even could. I mean that in the best possible way of course. Besides that I have to play serious catchup... I have this. The Unicorn/Monoceros. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicornen.wikipedia.org/wiki/MonocerosYeah their just wiki links. Some good hints. Directions. lol I'm still going with the Alchemical marriage symbolism regardless. Our two ventricle 'horns' (the sympathetic & parasympathetic systems) working together as one in unison. The never show Moses with one horn now do they? I have read that the one horn of the unicorn is a spiral shape... two 'twythed' strands that make up the single horn. I find that to be extremely significant, symbolically speaking; it actually represents an 'alchemical marriage' of sorts, if you see what I mean. Two strands, one spiral... For strength. And, thank you. I get plenty of amazement out of you, too; that's for sure... It's 8:33...
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